Now illegal to have sex with partner you don't live with?

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Lots of newspapers/online articles announcing this today.
Being in a private place with partner and having sex can lead to a £100 fine if i've read correctly.

The world is going cuckoo.
But who cares about seeing my boyfriend, at least I can go shopping in Primark and go sit on a packed train (sarcasm)

MN is a weird place.

Half the threads started are from women shit scared about the virus and having MH issues and the other half are from women wanting to do their own thing and bugger the guidance.

Is this how the UK really is?

What annoys me is people look at those idiots flouting the guidance and say 'Fuck it, (or not ) I'm doing what I want.'

As if two wrongs make it all okay.

Then next day they'll be blaming someone else when the R figure is above 1.

You can't have it both ways.

The media headlines are not saying anything new. You can't visit another person in their home whether it's to play chess or get under the duvet together. End of.

However, remember that it's OK to have sex with five other people provided you do it in your garden

I'm assuming that you are one of the people I see out and about who is only able to process one part of the instruction? You can meet 6 people outside as long as you stay 2 metres apart. So actually your joke is quite irrelevant

As someone who has some media experience (as in writing for it) these headlines today are another example of the papers / online getting people into a frenzy when they are running out of anything new to say.

@JudyCoolibar

'However, remember that it's OK to have sex with five other people provided you do it in your garden."
How is it ok to have sex with 5 others in your garden? You have to keep social distance even in your garden if people are members of another/other households. Difficult to have sex with anyone from 2 metres away.

It would be ok to have sex in your garden with 5 others who are part of your household but unrelated to you though (subject to no-one seeing you...indecency laws and all that).

To those of you who have pointed out the distanced relationships when one partner works away, my DP is an oil rig worker. We don’t see each other for 6-8 weeks at a time and I find it incredibly tough to have no physical contact during that time.
However; there is always an end in sight for him returning home. That’s what I hold on to when I miss him. It’s not the same for people who are currently living apart, they have no end in sight. It is human nature to need physical contact (not just sex) and I can see many people’s mental health deteriorating because of lack of contact with other people.
Although the economy needs to be considered, the government is being far too extreme in their easing of lockdown rules for focus on the economy as opposed to people’s mental health. I see no reason people who have been shielding this whole time, can’t have physical contact with their partners, but can go into non Essential shops as much as they like, where it won’t always be possible to distance at 2 meters.

There is no specific law making it illegal to have sex with a partner you don't live with. As others have said, that is the press sensationalising things.

What has changed is that the restrictions on public gatherings have been eased somewhat but restrictions on private gatherings have been introduced. Given that, under the previous regulations, leaving your home to meet someone else in their home was illegal in most circumstances, the only real changes are that there are now more circumstances in which such meetings are legal and, if an illegal meeting takes place, both parties have now committed an offence.

@wildcherries

For all the people saying, it's the law. At what point will it be too much? Too high a price? This isn't just about sex. Although I definitely agree touch from lovers and loved ones is important. The virus isn't going anywhere soon if at all. What law will they pass that will be too much? I'm not in England, but I'm curious. Denmark is easing lockdown but even when it was full on, there were only recommendations. This seems a lot.

@wildcherries

You know that this amendment (which has absolutely nothing to do with sex, other than in the eyes of The Sun) was part of a much bigger set of amendments that substantially reduce the restrictions on people in England, don't you? And that this particular amendment about meeting people in their homes makes no practical difference to what has and hasn't been allowed since mid-March?

I now totally have images of a dawn raid at number 12, with the police bursting in on Steve and Debbie going at it hell for leather in Debbie's wet room!

Honestly, if I didn't live with my partner, I'm pretty sure i would have met up by now, and loads of people already will have.

I do know. As I said in my post, I know this isn't only about sex. No need to be patronising, ItsGoingTibiaK

My point really is more about how much more people will be OK with with no real end in sight.

I'm not saying it can't be done or that it shouldn't but I'm willing to bet most of the people casually dismissing this as not a big deal aren't the ones who are alone.

I think it is a big deal but those who are doing what the feck they like are the ones making restrictions tighter and longer for the rest of us and are therefore selfish fucks

The grass is always greener etc but I don't think there is any family for which the guidance isn't tough. It's just that some folk have a social conscious and some don't.

if 18/19 year olds in their first serious relationship and in the early flushes of love can manage it then surely others can find their own solutions without breaking the rules?

do these newspapers think we are thick?
do they think we havent worked this out for ourselves?

Half the threads started are from women shit scared about the virus and having MH issues and the other half are from women wanting to do their own thing and bugger the guidance.

Is this how the UK really is?

This is exactly how it is amongst people I know, it's completely split. I have some people (mainly on my social media) who will not stop going on about 'the rules' and post pictures of crowded parks with angry emoji, and how anyone who leaves the house deserves to die etc etc

And then I also have people (mainly in real life) who are pretty relaxed about it all, have not been sticking to the rules that well, have been having 'secret meet ups', think we need to end lockdown etc.

Then I have a small third group of people who are quite vocal about 'staying safe' but who I have since found out have been meeting up with family or breaking other rules, but obviously have their own Cummings style justifications for it all. They have pissed me off the most actually!

But yes, it's quite strange that everyone has such divided views on it tbh.

I am appalled by the lack of empathy shown by some posters and disgusted by the government's lack of understanding on such a basic issue. This has finished me off too today- if there was a date that these restrictions were lifted then that would be one thing but not being able to see my partner until God knows when is affecting my mental health too. It's just not that easy to break the rules when there's two families involved and we've got 5 kids under 13 between us to think about and elderly parents next door who basically banished me as a health risk the last time we tried to meet.

Making grown women feel like sex starved whores just because they want some time alone with the man they love is actually misogynistic and cruel and some of you should be bloody ashamed of yourselves

Well if you need a plumber when he arrives check that he has socially isolated for 14 days then you can jump his bones

@wildcherries

I do know. As I said in my post, I know this isn't only about sex. No need to be patronising, ItsGoingTibiaK

My point really is more about how much more people will be OK with with no real end in sight.

@wildcherries

The point is that this is part of reducing restrictions, ie heading towards 'the end'. The press have decided to badge it as an additional restriction, when that is not at all the case.

If they'd reported this accurately and shown all of the restrictions in Regulation 6 that have been lifted, would you still be complaining?

www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2020/558/regulation/2/made

This is part of the trouble of how the UK government has been going about things.

Here in Mexico, the government closed schools, non-essential businesses, parks and other such incentives to leave the house, but have not applied rules and fines to individuals. We all know what we are supposed to do and the recommendations will change depending on the pandemic.

And we have some anti-social types here too. Probably about as many in the UK, but that is life.

My friend brought her aging mother to live with her in the middle of the lockdown because that was the sensible thing to do. I haven't seen my daughter and granddaughter for ages because that is the sensible thing to do. But if my or their mental health was struggling I would find the safest way of seeing them.

I do worry for teenagers and young adults now though. Sex and romance are such an essential part of that age.

I'm a bit shocked at people who think that others have no right to complain about enforced celebacy.

Why are somethings okay but other things arent.
. "Conveniently" enough it's fine and dandy for 100s of people gathering on public transport to go to work (all because the Government don't want to pay the furlough any more. That's all it boils down to) won't harm anyone. We're either socially distancing or we're not. They Can't have it all ways.
Children are okay to go to school and be expected to understand about social distancing. However the private schools are to remain closed. Why is that.
Is it because rich upper class kids health is more valuable than those from working class backgrounds. That's only reason I can come up with you.
I always thought what was good for the goose was good for the gander.

As it happens, a number of lawyers have been discussing the relevance of the new amendments to sex tibiak. It certainly isn't limited to The Sun. Unless you think George Peretz, for example, is moonlighting for them when he isn't busy with the QCing.

twitter.com/GeorgePeretzQC/status/1267162604377706496

bigchris

No, I'm sure they weren't playing tiddlywinks.
Amyway, she resigned, so it's not true that "it's ok for MPs to do it".

"it is legal to bring an escort to your house for sex, as that's necessary for work purposes".

Well, there's your loophole, op. Give your other half a tenner when he's done and tell him to but something pretty.

Buy

I agree with you OP. There’s no proportionality at all in the response to this. Fair enough keep social distancing in areas where it can be readily maintained. But there’s currently what - 0.25% of the population with the virus? Obviously we need to stop it going out of control but expecting the population to treat each other like lepers for an illness 99.75% of people don’t have and can’t therefore spread is total nonsense

Surely people are only following their instincts if they choose to have sex?

I'd love to know how they plan to police this one

I had my partner staying over with me this weekend. We are retired, and have both been very careful about social distancing when needing to shop etc.
I don’t think we are a huge risk to each other - probably much less than some co habiting couples who are working/using public transport etc. and obviously if either of us felt unwell, we wouldn’t meet up at all. I fail to see how we are putting anyone else at any more risk, just because we had been together, than if we hadn’t.
Young people are finding it tough too, and I sympathise, but they have time on their side.
To be honest, life’s too short to worry about ‘guidance’ now.