When the looting starts, the shooting starts.

[Annamaria14]

Can you believe that Trump has just tweeted this comment? He is talking about the protests about George Floyd's death. He has also called the protestors "thugs".

Twitter has put a warning on his twitter post, saying that it "glorifies violence". It is also racist!

The "historical context" is a reference to the late 1960s, when the phrase "when the looting starts, the shooting starts" was coined by Miami Police Chief Walter Headley, in reference to his aggressive policing policies in black neighbourhoods.

@HelloToMyKitty OK. Please fuck right off with that "white people suffer police brutality too" shite.

It is waaaaay more common for these horrors to happen to black people. That's black people, not "blacks" as you wrote (always a red flag).

I wrote black Americans so you fuck off.

We've had similar in this country and the perpetrators and the victims were both white! And how many people have had their businesses burned down/been injured, maybe even killed because of this? Assuming only property isn't only thing taken and looters don't hurt/injure the people they are looting from....who might decide to start taking law in their own hands now and buying their own guns!. Yes the policeman shouldn't have obstructed his airway like he did but he's lost his job and going to trial......and I still want to know if he used forged note or not?

He is an absolute disgrace of a leader, I have no words.

Most people in the UK have used forged money.

The old pound coins a massive % of them were fake.

Was going to catch up from the end of the thread but that comment annoyed me!

‘and I still want to know if he used forged note or not?’
So what you’re trying to do has a name - it’s called ‘victim blaming’.
there is NO justification for what that officer did- he murdered an unarmed, man who was no threat to himself or anyone else. He choked him to death - slowly.

Changed name

This study found no evidence that black civilians are killed at higher numbers by white cops. In fact, the interesting takeaway was the cops were most likely to kill civilians of the same race. This, of course, is largely due to local demographics.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6689929/#!po=1.04167

'use fake money to buy things you won't get shot'

If you live in the UK you will have done this. So will pretty much everyone. You think most of the UK population should be shot?

People are so stupid.

'The Royal Mint has revealed that one in 30 of the current £1 coins, which have not been replaced for more than 30 years, are counterfeit'.

Do any of you, if you use fake money what do you expect types, want to think your stance?

@ShinyFootball

Most people in the UK have used forged money.

The old pound coins a massive % of them were fake.

Was going to catch up from the end of the thread but that comment annoyed me!

^^ absolutely.

That’s why a lot of businesses refuse to accept £50 notes. If they do they usually request a second set of eyes to okay it.

Using a fake note, whether He knew or not does not condone what happened to him. The chances are, he never even knew. As PP quoted suggested Most people have had one & didn’t even know

Reasons that I've read about that black people have had the police called on them in USA include things like trying to open s bank account, trying to play a cheque into a bank account, going for a walk, playing in the park with a toy gun when a child.

@HelloToMyKitty
You wrote
"BLM is only really concerned about cop killings of blacks"

Fuck you. You have bent over backwards to deny the struggle of black people. You are part of the problem, but your other posts on this thread make me think you don't care that you are.

I'm watching CNN again WTF, is Trump doing I t know he's a dick but some of his tweets seem to be inciting violence,seriously his advisors need to keep him.away from Twitter

@B1rdbra1n

A businessman who found himself president Yeah, where 'businessman' is a euphemism for 'con man with the modus operandi of a Mafia boss'

At a time when Trump needs to prove himself to be "The most presidential president" hes' behaving like the worst kind of twitter troll.

Of late he's cosistently shown how out of his depth he is, his behaviour is deplorable.

Changed a typo doesn’t change things.

Fuck you. You have bent over backwards to deny the struggle of black people

I said police brutality is not something that affects the black community disproportionately and linked to a study.

I do recognize that black Americans are uniquely affected by racism, leading to unsafe communities and poorer life outcomes. America needs to solve that. But I don’t think there’s evidence that police are killing black civilians disproportionately and have backed up my statement with evidence.

Hello kitty

You would dispute this then

'A Washington Post analysis has found that black Americans are disproportionately affected by police violence. The data focuses specifically on police shootings and it mainly relies on police reports, news accounts and social media postings. Since the start of 2015, 4,728 people across the country have died in police shootings and approximately half - 2,385 - were white. Out of the remainder, 1,252 were black, 877 were Hispanic and 214 were from other racial groups. The data looks different as a share of the population, however. Black Americans account for less than 13 percent of the population but they are shot and killed by the police at a rate that's over twice as high as for white Americans.'

????

Also, it may be too early to say for sure, but it seems like out-of-towners are doing most of the property damage and arson in Minneapolis, not local members of the community. No proof but rumors on the Minneapolis subreddit.

I don’t believe locals would torch their community like this

Black Americans account for less than 13 percent of the population but they are shot and killed by the police at a rate that's over twice as high as for white Americans

Easy. You have to take into account encounters with law enforcement. If your study didn’t do that, then it’s not going to give you a correct reading.

Black Americans have more run-ins with law enforcement because they are more likely to be involved in police interactions—as an example, black Americans are responsible for just over half of homicides (Department of Justice stats) so of course there will be more interactions with cops. You have to properly capture these levels of interactions. Once you adjust, it starts to equalize

Yeah the Washington Post dataset is much more credible. The scientific article was testing disparities between officer and victim and using a predictive model, in the correction linked at the top the authors even caution about how it's being misinterpreted.

That study is really interesting. Thank you for the link kitty. It is way more nuanced than the conclusions you have drawn from it, though.

They only come to the conclusion that there is no difference by 'correcting' for violent crime stats between the populations. Which is something that gets raised a lot. The stuff about making the numbers difficult because white people are more likely to 'suicide by cop' was also interesting.

At a population evel, the number of black people killed is disproportionate.

Am watching CNN, protests everywhere and Trump has encouraged his supporters to go to White House area tonight to ‘counter protest’, he is a despicable human being (using the word human very loosely) and the US is unravelling

@HelloToMyKitty that's what you take from that? Simply that black Americans are more criminal? Nothing to do with police or societal bias? Nothing to do white people panicking and phoning to police at the sight of a black person? Nothing to do with unsafe convictions?

I'm going to say it. You're a racist.

"A Washington Post analysis has found that black Americans are disproportionately affected by police violence. The data focuses specifically on police shootings and it mainly relies on police reports, news accounts and social media postings"

Errr ... is relying on social media postings entirely sensible when it comes to collecting data?

'
Black Americans have more run-ins with law enforcement because they are more likely to be involved in police interactions'

And we see that they are targeted more, questioned, here black men were way more likely to be stopped and searched, stopped if they have a nice car etc.

Why are you so hell bent on saying there's no issue? If white people were being killed by police just going about their business don't you think we'd be hearing about it???

x2boys, while I agree with you that his advisers need to keep him off Twitter that will never happen, he listens to nobody and his ego is too big to back down from his hateful comments. I really fear for the future of the USA