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Mumsnet: An echo chamber for the leftist chatterati?

254 replies

Cam2020 · 29/05/2020 08:18

Just that really-what do people think?

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luckylavender · 29/05/2020 12:17

Yawn

Darkstar4855 · 29/05/2020 12:19

I’d say it’s more right than left most of the time!

ThePlantsitter · 29/05/2020 12:21

Yes - all those inclusive pro-diversity remainers who would rather have a Romanian nanny than one of those awful people from the North of England.

This is just made up bollocks. Who are you even talking about? Remainers aren't necessarily 'lefties' and many many many people in the South originally came from the North of England. Whoever said they wouldn't want a Northern nanny anyway?

It's all just so much nonsense. 'People who' this, 'people who' that - which people? Where?

Barbadossunset · 29/05/2020 12:42

Those saying it's a left-wing echo chamber go on threads with a left-wing bias and then complain about them; but there are also right-wing/other biased threads

I disagree.
Any threads started by conservative voters or leavers - eg the Brexit Arms - quickly become bunfights with the left and remainers.

ZaraW · 29/05/2020 12:46

Anybody who has been on Mumsnet for any length of time will know it's got increasingly right wing and many posters lack empathy.

Gwenhwyfar · 29/05/2020 12:50

No. I see a lot of right wing opinions on here. It's hardly the Guardian.

Helmetbymidnight · 29/05/2020 12:51

Yes - all those inclusive pro-diversity remainers who would rather have a Romanian nanny than one of those awful people from the North of England.

i dunno what that comment is- i think its some poor soul trying to pretend that the right are all brexiteers standing by the normal people and the left are all wealthy remainers - fuck knows. theyre completely wrong though.

Barracker · 29/05/2020 12:52

Echo chamber?

Absolutely.
There's never been any argument or debate on this site and there never will be. Everyone agrees. All the time. All of us. I've never once seen a dissenting opinion on anything in over a decade of posting. An AIBU thread once had a single response of "YABU" to our shock in 2007 I believe, but the lone dissident was promptly shown the door and order was quickly restored.
The site has been a haven of uncontested agreement ever since.

SuckingDieselFella · 29/05/2020 12:56

Yes.

pointythings · 29/05/2020 12:56

The moment you use the word 'leftist' you've already lost the argument.

I find MN very centrist, right-leaning if anything. But I'm very left wing.

BlackberryCane · 29/05/2020 13:34

@Helmetbymidnight

Yes - all those inclusive pro-diversity remainers who would rather have a Romanian nanny than one of those awful people from the North of England.

i dunno what that comment is- i think its some poor soul trying to pretend that the right are all brexiteers standing by the normal people and the left are all wealthy remainers - fuck knows. theyre completely wrong though.

Yes, that was a pretty bemusing one. I hadn't noticed my fellow northerners queuing up to fill nanny vacancies, but then perhaps I'm the wrong type of northern. I come from a low income but inconveniently Remain voting area, so probably.
VeryQuaintIrene · 29/05/2020 13:41

No - there seem to be more than enough tory voters on here defending the indefensible

Kurzgesagt · 29/05/2020 13:44

Nope.
I think many left leaning posters are pretty pragmatic and will openly criticise labour policies. Look at how many knew from the offset that Corbyn would be a disaster or that the ongoing anti-semitic issue would frighten off many labour supporters. On the other hand right wing posters like clavinova and cendrillion will doggedly defend whatever the government does, however morally dubious their actions may be.

Barbadossunset · 29/05/2020 13:49

The moment you use the word 'leftist' you've already lost the argument.

So what word is acceptable, pointy?

BeingonFBdoesntmakeittrue · 29/05/2020 13:58

@Gimmecaffiene

Well exactly but that is happening. Some people want to say the government have done a shit job, should've locked down harder, should be for longer. Tory shits killing everyone.

But then anyone querying if actually was it too much? is a bo

And anyone saying it's been shit already for many people and should be lifted for the economy, or concerns about the vulnerable in society (or their own household) is accused of being a Tory shill because it really hasn't been that hard and so many people have really found benefit..and there's no reason for children go back to school or work cos it's all great in their little world.

Someone asked when gyms might open the other day and was accused of being a Tory government employed survey. Smile

Which to me, doesn't allign with 'Leftist' values. And more 'I want things to work for me, they are, so fuck anyone else for as long as they are'.

Which seems v.Tory.

ElaineMarieBenes · 29/05/2020 14:39

@FreeKitties - I’d say generally I’m at the opposite side of the political spectrum to you but I completely agree with your post.

MadameMarie · 29/05/2020 15:12

Yes - all those inclusive pro-diversity remainers who would rather have a Romanian nanny than one of those awful people from the North of England.

The whole left v right thing is outdated really, it was the presence of Corbyn that reignited it, Labour leaders are usually somewhere around the centre.

I think a big divide is the metropolitans of big cities and those of left behind towns which was the big divide in the Brexit result. The fact places like Burnley, Stoke and Workington could go Tory would have been unthinkable previously. That's the big divide now the way north/south used to be. Big cities in the north like Manchester are known for being happily diverse, metropolitan and pro-EU. That's where your Burnleys and Workingtons have more in common with Essex towns who are Brexit voting Tories.

ErickBroch · 29/05/2020 15:30

I mean, centre-right at minimum.... but ok

user1471565182 · 29/05/2020 15:36

Did somebody call John Mann left wing back there or is the pollen getting to me?

Sparklesocks · 29/05/2020 15:43

Quite a title!

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 29/05/2020 15:45

ps. Is standing up vociferously for single sex spaces leftish or rightish?

No idea but it's what I'm doing Blush

ChocolatelyAsFuck · 29/05/2020 15:50

No, it’s a right wing echo chamber.

If you try to say anything that’s perceived as even remotely “left wing” even if it’s obviously positive like being anti-racism, you get shouted down as being a virtue signalling wokester.

Not sure why the right wingers think being anti-racist is so terrible, but MN is certainly dominated a lot of the time by an angry far right wing brigade who don’t tolerate dissenting opinions.

TinyPigeon · 29/05/2020 15:54

Nope.

I got banned for discussing the possibility of our esteemed PM perhaps not pulling through the virus. Which he caused.

CendrillonSings · 29/05/2020 15:58

It’s incredibly left-wing, manically so at times. Although that did make the last election particularly hilarious, so at least it’s good for a laugh Smile

CendrillonSings · 29/05/2020 15:59

I got banned for discussing the possibility of our esteemed PM perhaps not pulling through the virus.

Well, that’s a particularly repulsive thing to discuss, so are you surprised?