Mumsnet: An echo chamber for the leftist chatterati?

[Cam2020]

Just that really-what do people think?

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Standing up for the single sex exemption rights of women and girls (that are enshrined in law) is not transphobia

I feel like it used to be MUCH more left. I've been on here for about 12 years and it's definitely more
mixed now than it was - or maybe people feel more comfortable saying they are Tory/swing more to the right now? It's interesting people still think it is. Maybe in the same way the BBC gets called roaringly lefty by one side, and right-wing agenda-pushers by the other...

Anyway I am a proper old lefty but I like that there's a range of viewpoints on here, even if I disagree with lots of them.

Yes.

YANBU, it has been excruciating recently.

I actually question if Lockdown is causing serious mental illness, people obsessing over one left wing topic or another.

If it's a thread about benefits or council housing you get some real right wing stuff too

It used to be nicely left wing, but since the Daily Mail readers were attracted by the articles in there, there are more unthinking DM type posters. Also MN attracts a lot of astroturfers and women hating trolls of the type who use the word ‘leftist’.

It would actually be good if people kept political discussions to political boards rather than the more mainstream AIBU

It used to be nicely left wing, but since the Daily Mail readers were attracted by the articles in there, there are more unthinking DM type posters
Yes, that could explain a lot.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2017/04/25/demographics-dividing-britain

Women under 40 are less likely to vote Conservative than men under 40. The more educated a person is the more likely they are to vote Lib Dem or Labour. Put those two factors together and a site with a demographic that’s mostly female and has a high % of people educated to degree level is likely to be more left leaning than eg Facebook.

The political threads have a tendency to lean left although that's probably because of the whole quiet Tory thing rather than anything else.

Before the last election and the Brexit vote everyone was convinced it was going to be a Labour and Remain landslide respectively because they only knew people voting that way. So clearly that was a bubble.

Honestly I wish it was, but there’s a strong right wing bent imo and a vicious seam of racism (let’s not even mention the T word, because we know how that goes down).

It's hard to keep politics out of other discussions, most of life is going to be affected by politics to some degree

Yes, I have found this to be the case, but some of the posters with right wing views have just stopped engaging as they’re tired of the constant abuse and being accused of being a Tory/Russian bot.

I’m getting a bit tired of these lazy sweeping statements as a way of silencing people:

“Mumsnet is an echo chamber for leftist chatterati”

“The people want us to get Brexit done”

“A few months ago we were all saying ‘be kind’ - now this”

“The country is tired of this distraction and it’s time to move on”

If Mumsnet - or the UK - were that homogenous, why the constant disagreements?

Tends to be more educated people so it leans left. Simple as that.

I was accused of being anti Corbyn (true), Blue Labour (false) and Tory (crosses self) for pointing out that Labour were going to get slaughtered in that election. That was from a small number of hardcore Corbynists.

Yes. It was fascinating to see how astonished some Mumsnetters were by the landslide Tory victory at the last election - the echo chamber effect had rendered some of them oblivious to the views of the country as a whole.

Those 'posters with right wing views' turned up for the election and are tired of having their bigotry and bullshit called out I think you mean,

Who was astonished, Panda?

I think it’s less liberal than it used to be. As for centrist, where is the centre these days?

I think there are 'left' and' right', well off and poor, educated and uneducated, quite well represented on Mumsnet. It all depends on the issue being discussed on a particular thread, some will attract more people from one category of poster than another.

Indeed, the torrent vile posts in Dec post election were proof of that.

And then you get the cringey 'Daily Fail' posts.

And some bullying of anyone who doesn't jump to the lefty stance on the thread. Again all the Brexit ones not so long back.

Often posters, such as one early on in this thread, struggle to understand that they are not lord and master of everyone else and everyone is allowed their own opinion. They make a fool out of themselves.

Anyway in summary yes

@MadameMarie

It's known for trans phobia not exactly left wing

Only by fuckwits.

Ironically, one of the areas of the British political spectrum that's most anti TRA ideology is the old school Communists. Morning Star publish lots of gender critical stuff. That's the thing with actual Communists, they aren't afraid of structural analysis.

Absolutely