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Nextdoor have bought a fucking beagle

280 replies

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 06:15

That barks a lot. Still a puppy so should I be worried it's going to get worse, or could it actually get better?

I know beagles are known for being noisy which makes me question their breed choice considering we live in Edwardian maisonettes in SW London, ie, close together!

The irony is, they used to complain bitterly about their upstairs neighbour before the left.

What about when they both go back to work!!

Aibu to get this to stop ASAP?

OP posts:
EL8888 · 28/05/2020 10:23

@Mammaaof well, exactly. I don’t think dogs are a great idea in flats. But playing devils advocate lm sure your child (ren) have been noisy and annoying at times to your neighbours. We all have to tolerate other people’s noise to a degree

dontdisturbmenow · 28/05/2020 10:25

People comparing babies to dogs are nuts
It's not comparing dogs and babies, it's paring the disturbance they create. In both cases, it's peoples responsibility to do what they can to reduce it. Of course it's harder for babies, they are so longer than puppies, but the attitude of 'that's tough' if it disturbed others is not on whatever the cause of the disturbance.

IdblowJonSnow · 28/05/2020 10:36

My sister used to have 2 beagles and they were unmanageable. They moved and gave them a very large run outside. Occasionally they escaped and she had to pick them up from 50 miles away once. They were chipped of course. They were cute but a pita.
But all dogs are different. You should definitely say something if they're disturbing you.

abigailsnan · 28/05/2020 10:42

Do you not have a residents committee at all who take care of any disputes that arise.
Beagle's are as stated really vocal when they want to be but can be trained and they are sturdy hardy dogs who will walk for miles if you let them my FIL had 2 of them and he was always out with them my BIL has one now 3yrs old and she is very noisy compared to my Basset who is so lazy and can't even raise a bark sometimes.

TheVanguardSix · 28/05/2020 10:45

Beagles. Most stressful breed! If you want to unravel your mental health, get a beagle. Beagles bark like mad. Don't get me wrong, they are the nicest dogs, but they are so high maintenance. I've met local ones who are good as gold but that is down to having incredibly dedicated owners who really know how to work with the breed and dogs in general. But even then, they are a total pita. My friend has one. You can't even sit down for a cup of tea in her place without her dog just driving you insane! A beagle will break you.

Neepers · 28/05/2020 10:48

Keep a diary of the noise and report it to your local council. www.gov.uk/report-noise-pollution-to-council

Antipodeancousin · 28/05/2020 10:49

Could it be a beagle cross? I know a beagle x cavalier that is left at home during the day and he doesn’t howl now as an adult. He destroys their belongings and I couldn’t live with him but he’d be ok as a neighbour.

vanillandhoney · 28/05/2020 10:52

@Davespecifico

Beagle Welfare is probably stacked with dogs as from what I can tell, it’s a high needs dog and many owners don’t understand the implications of owning the breed.
Yep, it's a real shame.

Beagles are very very cute and I think that's why so many people are attracted to them. They're not big, are generally pretty healthy, have good life-spans and are known for being very family friendly and good with children and people.

But they're pack dogs. They're bred to run independently away from people. That's literally their job. To run off through fields (hence the white tip on their tails so you can see them in long grass) follow the scent, and then bay when they catch it.

If you treat them as hunting dogs and work with their strengths, you'll have an amazing family pet, but lots of people don't want to do that - they treat them like a lab or spaniel and wonder why it's not working.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 11:01

It's not a council issue. The freeholder most likely has a managing agent who can be contacted, or there will be a residents group who run the building. Whichever it is should simply be informed there is a nuisance dog living in flat number X, in breach of the leasehold agreement. The landlord will receive a letter saying there are reports of a dog on the premises and will be asked to confirm if that is the case and instructed to remove the animal within X time. He will give the tenants a choice - leave with the dog or find the dog another home. No need for any conflict and no need to involve the council or provide it's an environmental health issue. The dog could be silent and you could still do the above. Which is why these clauses exist. If the dog was silent you would likely live and let live. But it isn't. Life it too short to put up with this sort of nonsense. If they were decent neighbours they would have come and discussed getting a puppy with you before going ahead, knowing it would be disruptive. Apologies daily are of no help!

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 11:02

*prove not provide

whoamitojudge · 28/05/2020 11:14

I've got two beagles and they alert us to all types of things happening in the garden and out the front of the house as they sit and look out of the window. As soon as we call them they stop.
They can be trained ( bribed) but with a beagle( as with most breeds) it has to be consistent.
I hope they have lots of toys/activities to keep it amused as that is when the boredom kicks in and they start to howl

theprincessmittens · 28/05/2020 11:23

The neighbour directly downstairs from me has a dog - no idea what breed as I dislike dogs intensely - that barks from the second the owner leaves it until the owner returns. One memorable night it barked for 10 hours straight.
Obviously with lockdown this should have stopped/reduced the barking a lot, but said neighbour has also been breaking lockdown since the beginning.
As soon as my HA is back up and running again fully, I'm reporting him for the sodding dog.

Wobblywibblywoo · 28/05/2020 11:28

It’s a puppy for gods sake! Give it a chance to be trained! You do know they are not born trained right!

dontgobaconmyheart · 28/05/2020 11:33

I expect the poor puppy will be given up. They may well be training it via Zoom like many who bought a lockdown puppy are, these things aren't fixed overnight, nor indeed is it a few weeks in which a newborn keeps the neighbours up and drives them half mad crying either. Your child wasnt sitting colouring quietly at a few months old. Everyone knows babies and dogs are very different, but a disturbance really isn't.

Do they own the property OP? I would report to the property management/freeholders if you own and feel the noise is untenable and won't improve but bear in mind very little is likely to happen either way for a very long time, especially in lockdown. It would need to go to court for and win for them to be asked to remove the animal. They also have the right to request permission from the free holder to waive the no pets clause (which they may have already done) and may have that accepted regardless. Lots of people do.

Or report the the council re: noise hygiene but again- very long drawn out process that will be slower during covid 19.

I agree it's unfair and must be awful, but I would manage your expectations for your own sanity because it won't be easily or quickly solved. Falling out with neighbours is likely to be as bad as the noise.

Straycatstrut · 28/05/2020 11:39

My springer barked and howled for the first few nights. The poor pups miss their warm mum and littermates. I let her sleep on my bed with me for the first couple of days when she was tiny but I didn't want to teach her she was allowed to do that. I have a rule that everyone's bed is their own space and they must sleep in it alone unless legit scared or sick.

After a couple of weeks she soon settled. I'd give it time. If it carries on you can report it but the owners might be trying their best.

chocolateandpinkgin · 28/05/2020 11:39

We have a beagle, I had to check this thread to see if it's about us Grin we haven't just got him though.

Is it a very young puppy? They do howl and bark a lot when they're very young, ours used to wake us at 5-6am every day - yes, I did question my life choices and wonder why I ever thought it was a good idea to get a puppy. It's pretty normal though - obviously the pup has had a big life change, a new home, and they tend to need the loo a lot more often at that age. Ours did settle down pretty quickly though, we sorted toilet training within a few weeks and he started sleeping properly through the night (and not waking up at some ungodly hour of the morning).

Our beagle is 5 now and he's pretty calm now but yes they do need a good bit of exercise. Definitely not 50 miles a day though! But he likes a walk once a day and then he snoozes for the rest of the day, he's a lazy sod.

If they're both out at work all day I'm guessing they'll have made arrangements for someone to come and walk him? I definitely wouldnt leave ours all day on his own, he's OK for a few hours but I wouldn't do it every day. I guess that bit isn't your concern really though (unless the dog DOES howl all day from being left alone)

HelloChompy · 28/05/2020 12:18

Hopefully your neighbour's dog will be a beagle that quietens down as he matures 🤞 I love dogs, so much so that I work as a dog walker, and am pretty tolerant to dogs barking...

Your thread reminds me of a beagle I used to walk though and I'm sorry to tell you that he was incredibly vocal the entire time I knew him. I used to walk past his house mid morning with another dog and hear him baying. He was still going by the time I came to collect him at lunchtime. When I did my mid afternoon walk with another dog he would still be at it. I know from his owners that they received complaints about him barking overnight too. I've never seen so many houses go up for sale around one house.

My dog is very good friends with a beagle though, we walk past her house regularly and I have never heard her make a sound so there is always hope! It is really is such a distinctive sound though, that really carries. I couldn't have lived next to my client's dog, the noise would have driven me crazy.

Shortandsweet20 · 28/05/2020 12:39

You don't know their plans for the puppy? They might use a doggy day care so the pup might not be in all day?

I would give it a few days and then just ask politely.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 12:47

@Al1Langdownthecleghole

I’ve just told my beagle she should be running 50 miles a day. Her face said “you first” then she went back to sleep.
Oh, why don’t we have a like button?
LST · 28/05/2020 12:48

This is why we had to rehome 😪 He wasn't a beagle, but he wasn't happy left alone. We tried everything. Walks midday, people going in etc. We couldn't afford for him to go to a kennel everyday. So we had to rehome him to people who were in all day. Hardest and saddest decision of my life, but we had to think of him and my neighbours. My other dog is a dream though and doesn't mind being left.

Drivingdownthe101 · 28/05/2020 13:07

50 miles a day?! My beagle would look at me in disgust if I tried to even suggest a second walk.
He has a 45 min walk a day and is perfectly fit, healthy and happy. And he rarely howls, although he didn’t as a puppy either so probably just a temperament thing.

vanillandhoney · 28/05/2020 13:17

The longest my beagle has done in a day is eight miles and by the end of it he was looking at us like "really? Can we go home now?" - he's lazy as anything Grin

Currently sprawled on the sun lounger in the garden snoring his head off.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 13:42

@Wobblywibblywoo

Why does Op need to give it a chance? Dogs aren't allowed. This isn't a neighbour in a freehold house. The tenants are breaking the terms of their least. There is no reason to give them a chance.

Drivingdownthe101 · 28/05/2020 13:44

vanillandhoney we once did 8 miles with ours. He was 3 then. At mile 7 he sat down and refused to walk any more. Had to sit next to him for about an hour before he decided to walk again!

BadLad · 28/05/2020 14:04

My DCs wanted a beagle the vet said it needs a 50 mile run a day.

I've been doing a hundred with ours. I'm happy to read that I can cut back a bit.

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