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Nextdoor have bought a fucking beagle

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wowsaid · 28/05/2020 06:15

That barks a lot. Still a puppy so should I be worried it's going to get worse, or could it actually get better?

I know beagles are known for being noisy which makes me question their breed choice considering we live in Edwardian maisonettes in SW London, ie, close together!

The irony is, they used to complain bitterly about their upstairs neighbour before the left.

What about when they both go back to work!!

Aibu to get this to stop ASAP?

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IncrediblySadToo · 28/05/2020 06:45

Give them some time to sort it out before complaining

They're not 'sorting it out' though, they're ignoring it. 'Sorting it out' means meeting its needs, it's a baby. Give it what it needs & it'll stop crying. It needs the toilet or attention.

AlternativePerspective · 28/05/2020 06:45

There’s an awful lot of judgement on here.

Am assuming this is a new puppy in which case it’s still a baby and is finding its voice. Not unlike a baby really.

Also, we have no idea what the arrangements are for this dog, whether the neighbours will be taking it out for long walks every day or whether it will be going into doggie daycare when they go back to work.

No I probably wouldn’t have a dog in a flat, but on MN no-one is considered capable of owning a dog unless they have a 20 acre estate and can turn being with their dog into a full-time ocupation.

OP I would just ask the neighbours if they could make some effort to stop the puppy barking especially at night.

How much does it bark? e.g. is it a couple of woofs or does it bark insessently for hours?

Remember it’s just been taken away from its mum. Of course it’s likely to be upset when it’s left on its own.

midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 06:45

Good news is it probably won't always wake up at 5.30am. My sisters beagle was notoriously lazy. He was hard work as a puppy though and they are terrible chewers usually so I'd imagine he's in a crate. Poor thing is probably desperate for the toilet.

fullofgoodintentions · 28/05/2020 06:50

Puppies do bark for attention, and the more attention you give them for barking (I.e. responding to their every bark with attention) the longer it goes on. My puppy used to bark constantly when she was tiny but at 8 months hardly at all. That said she gets up at 6.15, sorry.

Might be worth asking them to move the crate if it's next to your wall. I'd also want to know what their plans are when they go back to work, as if they leave it you might be subjected to barking all day.

BovaryX · 28/05/2020 06:50

The puppy has its own Instagram so perhaps it was for the cuteness factor

The kind of person who buys a pet because of Instagram is the kind of person who has given not one second thought to its needs. Or how to meet them.

Mammaaof · 28/05/2020 06:51

Would you moan like that if it was a baby crying??

Beaglemum93 · 28/05/2020 06:53

@IncrediblySadToo "sort it out" was a bad choice of words. My point was that it is a baby that will inevitably wake up because it needs the toilet. Complaining will not stop the puppy waking up for this reason. I meant that she should give the puppy time to be able to sleep through the night.

midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 06:56

LOL at the 50 miles. Do people actually think about these things before they repeat them? 😆. Is it even possible to walk 50 miles in a day even as a once off? People train for months for one 26 mile marathon and then need time off for recuperation before the next one.

CovidicusRex · 28/05/2020 06:56

It really should be illegal to keep pets in unsuitable environments. It’s unfair to both the animal in question and everyone that has to put up with the inconvenience this causes.

WhatsHappeningCaroleBaskin · 28/05/2020 06:57

I have two beagles. Yes they bark sometimes, but only if they think someone is trying to access the house.

As with any dog, it is not about the breed, it's about how it's reared.

Beagles are wonderful dogs, mine are great (although easily annoyed) with my toddler.

As for a 50-mile run a day, that's nonsense. Mine get an hour's walk and they are shattered.

midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 06:59

Why is an apartment not suitable for any dog if they are exercising it correctly though? It's not different to have if a dog in a house but only allowing it downstairs for instance.

myself2020 · 28/05/2020 07:05

@midnightstar66 because apartments are mainly in cities - dogs like beagles need a lot of exercise which in cities is very very hard to get. A walk around the park won’t do. not quite 50 miles, but it certainly feels like it.
they are also noisy by design. you can train them, but its better in the countryside, away from others where the training period won’t do your neighbours head in.
An older, trained beagle in an apartment - doable. a puppy - i wouldn’t do it, you are in for a long ling period of pain.

dottiedodah · 28/05/2020 07:09

Hes only a puppy ,so you may have to wait and see for a couple of months if this improves with time or not.All puppies take time to settle in really .Many people now have dog walkers or Doggy Day Care if they work ,so he may not be left for long periods anyway .Maybe have a word with NDN ,and say your baby is being woken up .Maybe they could set their alarm and pre empt the puppy barking?All dogs need exercise ,Beagles are no different! Plenty of parks in SW London for walkies for him I imagine (no need for 50 mile walks LOL!)

midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 07:09

I live in a city centre, we are absolutely surrounded by parks, woods and off road paths. We have a river and a beach in walking distance. I have a working breed dog. All cities and large towns have large parks and green areas so that's nonsense, also you get flats in the smallest of villages so that's a pretty sweeping (and very incorrect) assumption to make @myself2020

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 07:11

We have a medium sized park near us and of course there is the common. But that's jt in terms of open spaces for the dog to run.

It barked from 5:30-6 this morning when I assume someone the stopped the barking.

What worries me is when they're both at work in central London.

I'm a SAHM so will be here a lot, having to listen to it

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Motorina · 28/05/2020 07:12

I have beagles.

I'm an ultra runner and they do all my training with me. They will do 50 miles in a day. Unlike me, they will be bouncing around and happy to do 50 miles the next day.

They will be equally happy to sleep on the sofa. One of mine is under the duvet right now.

They are noisy and the thought of trying to manage one in a London flat makes me shudder.

It is possible, as this is a puppy, that they are training it to sleep in the kitchen or something, and the pup is protesting being alone. In that case, it should settle. But there will probably always be intermittent howling.

And if they start leaving the beagle to go to work all day then, yeah, the beagle will make its rejection known. Loudly.

Sorry.

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 07:12

I can't read my lease, we don't have one because we own ours

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wowsaid · 28/05/2020 07:14

It is possible, as this is a puppy, that they are training it to sleep in the kitchen or something, and the pup is protesting being alone. In that case, it should settle. But there will probably always be intermittent howling.

That's ok...

And if they start leaving the beagle to go to work all day then, yeah, the beagle will make its rejection known. Loudly.

Oh great Sad

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Troels · 28/05/2020 07:14

Ours was a very quiet Beagle unless a Police car of fire engine with sirens went nearby. Then the howl started. But she was well behaved and if we told her to stop she did.
She did run a lot, we had a huge garden and she would take off like a bullet and run about.
They can be taught to be quiet, ours was a very gentle and well behaved rescue dog.

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 07:17

Surely a quieter breed would have been a better idea?

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Marnie76 · 28/05/2020 07:19

@Mammaaof

Would you moan like that if it was a baby crying??
Babies are not left alone to cry when their parents go to work which is what the OP is worried about. They also cry less pretty quickly as they get older.
wowsaid · 28/05/2020 07:20

Yes babies turn into adults etc, dogs generally bark their whole lives. It's not the dog's fault. It's the humans' faults that decided it was a good idea

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Annabk · 28/05/2020 07:21

Beagles hate to be alone. They need the company of people or other dogs. Expect howling when they leave him alone unless they are working with an excellent behaviourist to offset separation anxiety while he’s still a pup Sad

midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 07:22

There's probably a high chance at least one of them will be working at home for the foreseeable future. Many people I know on London office jobs are at home for the rest of the year at least.

They are noisy and the thought of trying to manage one in a London flat makes me shudder.*

It's just what they are used to though isnt it. My sister lives in a small cottage in a village but the dog isn't allowed upstairs so it's hair the kitchen and sitting room - smaller than any flat. She also works and comes home at lunch to let him out. He's 14 now and has been happy with this routine since puppyhood. I think he'd be aghast at the idea of any sort of long distance run. He likes to mooch and sniff. My friend runs (around 17 mile runs) and leaves her beagle at home for similar reasons

Azaziel · 28/05/2020 07:22

All these people saying ‘how do you expect them to stop it barking’, and that one tit saying ‘would you complain about a crying baby’? It’s a fucking dog! One that shouldn’t be in a flat in London! Op just report it to the council. They’re clearly shite dog owners.,if it’s barking that length of time in the morning, then it needs attention or it needs letting out. They shouldn’t be ignoring it for hours on end while it disturbs any neighbour close enough to hear it

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