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Nextdoor have bought a fucking beagle

280 replies

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 06:15

That barks a lot. Still a puppy so should I be worried it's going to get worse, or could it actually get better?

I know beagles are known for being noisy which makes me question their breed choice considering we live in Edwardian maisonettes in SW London, ie, close together!

The irony is, they used to complain bitterly about their upstairs neighbour before the left.

What about when they both go back to work!!

Aibu to get this to stop ASAP?

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midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 08:23

I'm breaking all the MN rules with a high energy pup in a rented city flat (not a beagle though. We could have met it's energy, mental stimulation and training needs no problem but the shedding and the smell mean they didn't even make the list) with Primary age dc and non enclosed garden. - puppy is still asleep now at 8.20 mind you... I get woken up by 5am each morning by the bloody birds.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 08:24

Also would recommend not discussing it with them further. They know they are disturbing you. They don’t care. Any flat could report them so don’t make a big thing of it with them - you don’t want them focusing on you when they have to get rid of it.

leckford · 28/05/2020 08:24

We have a new puppy, not a beagle, who barked at bit in the first week, but now she is used to us she rarely barks. We are however in a e with a garden and she won’t be last alone except for a short time.

Dogs can cope in flats provided they are rarely left alone and get sufficient attention and exercise.

Allowing to bark is not acceptable and many flats don’t allow animals. Hopefully they have made plans, taking dog to work, doggy day care etc, otherwise the poor thing will end up in a shelter

overnightangel · 28/05/2020 08:25

People who own noisy dogs when they have neighbours are the height of selfishness.
Absolute wankers

LightenUpSummer · 28/05/2020 08:32

overnightangel I was literally going to write those words!!

I cannot believe the antisocial arrogance of people who keep dogs that bark in residential areas.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 28/05/2020 08:33

They are in for a world of problems I fear. beagles are lovely adorable dogs but they get bored and destructive and loud when left alone- especially when young. They require a ton of exercise to be kept on an even keel. I have a feeling this wont end well...

MaryLennoxsScowl · 28/05/2020 08:34

There’s a lot of rubbish being talked on here about keeping dogs in flats. I might not have picked a beagle for a flat as they are noisy, but it absolutely doesn’t follow that only lapdogs can be kept in flats. Lapdogs are really yappy anyway. Any dog can be kept in a flat so long as you’re prepared to walk it properly and you have space. My dad lives on a farm and his dog goes with him round the fields - but at home the dog is kept in the kitchen only. My dog lives in a flat in a city and has the run of kitchen, hall, living room, bedroom. He actually has more space indoors. We walk him four times a day, off-lead every time, in the park right next to the house, or at the beach a mile and a half away, or on any number of different walks in the city. You may not have noticed as a non-dog-owner how great a lot of cities are for dogs - there’s a river here where you can walk off-lead the length of the city if you choose, a canal towpath, heaps of parks, cycle path networks on old railway routes and hills dedicated to walking. Sure, I can’t open the door and let him wander out into a garden to mooch about, but he gets more walks as a result of that, so is actually more exercises and more entertained than a dog chucked out into a patch of lawn occasionally but only walked once a day.

Herbie0987 · 28/05/2020 08:34

We had a neighbour who had a Beagle, which had the run of the garden when they were at work. It barked and howled all the time. Had to put a note through their doer about it as they were never in. In the end complained to the council, and it did improve for a while. Thank goodness they moved.

vanillandhoney · 28/05/2020 08:37

If they can't have a dog (in accordance with the lease) then if you don't complain, I'm sure someone else will.

You're right to be worried about when they go back to work. Mine cannot stand being on his own - two hours is his limit before he would get bored (and by bored, read noisy and destructive). He has two cats for company but would still be super distressed.

We only got a beagle because my in-laws can help look after him while we're out. I'm a dog-walker so 90% of the time he comes to work with me and the remaining time, he goes to DH's parents' and gets spoiled utterly rotten Grin They also have him if we want to go out for longer than a couple of hours. Mostly he just sleeps but it means he's not alone and has someone to let him out to the toilet and play with him.

I'm a member of a Beagle group on Facebook and so many people leave them all day and wonder why they come home to no sofa!

Nottherealslimshady · 28/05/2020 08:39

God you sound uptight! Puppies bark when left alone. They way you stop the barking is to ignore the barking or have it sleep in bed with you. It'll grow out of it so long as they dont reward the barking. Our neighbours dog barks when they leave it alone, it's just one of the parts of living in adjoining houses.

dontdisturbmenow · 28/05/2020 08:41

People who own noisy dogs when they have neighbours are the height of selfishness. Absolute wankers
Oh love this thread after the one yesterday and noisy neighbour children! Let's apply the same attitude!

'Dogs are dogs, I try to get them to bark less, but there's so much I can do'

'My dogs bark from 10am to 6pm so stop moaning, you get to enjoy your home the rest of the time'.

'You need to learn to live in a community and that involves dogs. If you don't like it, move somewhere else'.

I've got a dog, one known to bark quite a lot. I trained it from the time it was a puppy and he doesn't bark. Funny how dogs, just like kids, can learn good behaviours when you put in the effort to teach them!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/05/2020 08:41

How long have they had the puppy ?

Chances are he hasn't had his vaccines completed so he wouldn't even be able to go out ?

And YY to the damage he can do......

hfrdgftcsdg · 28/05/2020 08:42

Nottherealslimshady - are you bloody joking? I have to accept dogs barking because that’s part of living in an adjoining house???? Terrible. THEY should sleep with it, get up and 5 and take it out with them, otherwise they shouldn’t get a frighin dog. Selfish beyond belief!

TerribleCustomerCervix · 28/05/2020 08:42

Assuming the puppy came from a decent breeder who will take it back, you could be doing it a favour. It would have another chance at finding a suitable home.

However, the fact that whoever sold it in the first place didn’t seem to connect the dots between “Potential owners live in a flat and have long commutes to full time jobs in central London.” and the fact the poor dog is a fucking BEAGLE, indicates that it wasn’t a breeder who gives a shit about where their animals end up.

vanillandhoney · 28/05/2020 08:42

@Nottherealslimshady

God you sound uptight! Puppies bark when left alone. They way you stop the barking is to ignore the barking or have it sleep in bed with you. It'll grow out of it so long as they dont reward the barking. Our neighbours dog barks when they leave it alone, it's just one of the parts of living in adjoining houses.
Don't be so daft.

Yes, barking is normal but if your dog barks constantly when you leave it, then it likely has separation anxiety. A dog that barks constantly when left is not a happy dog. It's stressed and unhappy and vocalising it the only way it can.

Kittenlicker · 28/05/2020 08:43

Not all dogs ‘grow out of it sadly’ and yes, he’s just a puppy but if it continues it can be bloody annoying. That’s why there’s a law In law, ‘a barking dog can be a 'statutory noise nuisance'. Under the Environmental Protection Act 1990 you (as the owner) could be taken to court if you do nothing to stop the nuisance. This could lead to a fine of up to £5,000’ Hopefully won’t come to that OP!

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 09:03

I’m not suggesting dogs and flats never mix. They can. But owner occupiers are generally more invested in managing the noise well to avoid upsetting the neighbours and are fully aware they are breaching their lease and relying on neighbours goodwill.

Renters are not as invested. They will move on. They probably got the puppy ready for when they make their move to the country to have children. Young renting couples in central London often do this. Selfish gits.

Very different to someone who is at home all day and manages their pet well. Plus landlord may be furious to find their carpets being ruined by a puppy! Be neighbourly to the landlord - that’s the person you want a good relationship with!!

overnightangel · 28/05/2020 09:06

“Our neighbours dog barks when they leave it alone, it's just one of the parts of living in adjoining houses”

Bullshit.
If I’ve spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on something I don’t expect it to be unbearable to live in because someone decides they want a fucking dog

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 09:07

Have you actually spoken to them about it?
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I have read the thread but don't recall seeing this.

Yes they apologise most days.. but that doesn't solve the problem...

I'm not uptight, the screaming young children around don't bother me, I know they'll grow out of it etc etc.

Most dogs don't and when the owners go back to work I worry.

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lemonsandlimes123 · 28/05/2020 09:08

You have a presumably quite young child who I am guessing also spent many nights crying so I suggest you wind your neck in.

Also pretty unusual for a long leasehold to prevent pets as opposed to a tenancy agreement.

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 09:09

Our child has slept through the night for over two years and when they did wake, we didn't leave them to cry.

As I said, there are tonnes of noisy children around here, total nappy valley, they don't bother me.

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ExclamationPerfume · 28/05/2020 09:11

We had a previous neighbour with a beagle. It whined whenever it was left alone in the house. Our selfish neighbours worked full time. A dog walker came for 20 minutes a day. I cheered when their removal van came when they moved.

Fluffybutter · 28/05/2020 09:11

I feel your pain @wowsaid
My neighbours got a cockerpoo in December and since it’s been sunny they let it out in the garden all day 7:30-22:30 and all that yappy fucker does is bark .. it’s so reactive that even just opening my back door sets the thing off .
They are not training it and they feign ignorance when I do say something .
If I go out my back gate it snarls at me under the their gate so I bought a water pistol but haven’t grown the balls to use it yet

Fluffybutter · 28/05/2020 09:13

@lemonsandlimes123

You have a presumably quite young child who I am guessing also spent many nights crying so I suggest you wind your neck in.

Also pretty unusual for a long leasehold to prevent pets as opposed to a tenancy agreement.

You have a noisy dog then ,presumably.. Dogs are completely different to children
Nonameslob · 28/05/2020 09:15

We must have been very lucky with our beagle! She only ever chewed her own bed and my crocs (some might say that's a good thing). She cried the first two nights she was with us but never barked. In fact, she didn't bark for a long time and I wondered if she could! She does bark if she can hear the neighbours in their garden and we bring her straight in. I can't stand her barking so completely understand that it would annoy others. She doesn't need a 50 mile run every day!! They are great dogs but I definitely wouldn't get one if I worked full time. They love human company, as do all dogs, but beagles especially. I don't think any dog, other than maybe a little breed, should be in a flat. This makes me sad as there are so many beagles in rescue centres because people like the look of them but don't know how to care for them.

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