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Nextdoor have bought a fucking beagle

280 replies

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 06:15

That barks a lot. Still a puppy so should I be worried it's going to get worse, or could it actually get better?

I know beagles are known for being noisy which makes me question their breed choice considering we live in Edwardian maisonettes in SW London, ie, close together!

The irony is, they used to complain bitterly about their upstairs neighbour before the left.

What about when they both go back to work!!

Aibu to get this to stop ASAP?

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wowsaid · 28/05/2020 07:50

My husband has just told me our leasehold agreement doesn't allow for pets.

So their landlord presumably has the same leasehold agreement, so their tenancy agreement must say they can't have a pet.

But what can I actually do about it considering I have to live next door to these people?!

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GreyishDays · 28/05/2020 07:50

Doesn’t matter whether the freeholder will actually care. If the lease says no dogs, the landlord may not want to break that.

slipperywhensparticus · 28/05/2020 07:50

It has it's own Instagram?

Message it daily seriously bro go back to sleep dude! Trying to sleep here record the noise of the barking put that on Instagram tag his profile in it

Or tell them to move the fucking crate

Kittenlicker · 28/05/2020 07:52

The amount of people getting puppies in lockdown is ridiculous. Prices have increased as a result and now even mixed breeds are being sold for 1,000s. Most people haven’t even thought about what will happen when they go back to work. It’s going to result in a huge influx of unwanted dogs at rescues sadly.

midnightstar66 · 28/05/2020 07:53

@Azaziel you know nothing about their situation though apart from that they live in a flat. Rescues absolutely discount on this fact alone which also rules out loads of good homes sadly which is why so many people get puppies instead. As I said I live in a city centre albeit a very green one (as is London) . Everyone lives in flats here, yet it's an extremely dog friendly area and it's swarming with happy, well exercised huskies, vizslas, collies etc. I have a very high energy terrier pup who is exemplary in the house because she gets more than enough stimulation. The dog waking industry round here is extremely lucrative as is the day care. However mine will be going to my retired parents when I go back to work. You have no idea what is set up for this pup and what their knowledge and experience is. Unless it's a bloody bedsit the 4 walls are pretty irrelevant. I also was involved with rescues abroad for many years when I lived there and it's often a different situation anyway as hunting type dogs are used to be big kept in cages outside and are very unsocialised. Their needs are totally different to that of a well raised puppy

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 07:53

The vast majority of leasehold flats have a clause saying pets are not allowed. Residents ignore at their discretion so if someone has a quiet pet it’s often fine because they are never reported but the clause exists so the freeholder can instruct people to remove nuisance pets. Read your lease. Even if pets are allowed complain to the freeholder now so if it doesn’t settle they will have evidence that you objected early.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 07:55

If they are renting there is no issue. Contact the freeholder. They will contact the landlord. It’s the landlords problem.

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 08:01

If they are renting there is no issue. Contact the freeholder. They will contact the landlord. It’s the landlords problem.

This is true. Thank you

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AllNaturalIngredients · 28/05/2020 08:01

We’ve got a husky pup ...oh man! The first few nights she howled Like a wolf ALL night long! 🤯 She even kept me awake and I could sleep through anything. She was just lonely for her mum, she’s grand now. The beagle will get better as she gets older and can be trained not to bark incessantly

Wife2b · 28/05/2020 08:01

Blimey OP, you’re very hostile towards your neighbour. It’s a puppy, it will cry at night until it understands it must sleep alone (assuming that’s what the owners want). Eventually it should quieten down. I live in a flat and downstairs got a kitten, we could hear her crying at night and during the day when they went to work. Eventually she has grown up and now is no bother.

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 08:05

I'm really not hostile towards them. Maybe my posts sound it.

I am grumpy this morning because I was woken early. My child sleeps in until 7:30 ish these days after ages and ages of early waking so I'm cross!!!

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Midsommar · 28/05/2020 08:05

OP I wouldn't worry too much. Our NDN have a beagle too and we rarely hear her barking. The puppy will get better with age Smile

wowsaid · 28/05/2020 08:05

Thank you @Midsommar

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Kittenlicker · 28/05/2020 08:09

There is nothing worse that persistent barking though. It’s torturous. Hope it stops.

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 28/05/2020 08:10

Blimey OP, you’re very hostile towards your neighbour. It’s a puppy,

Hmm

Yes it's only a puppy ...but it's a beagle . Why should the OP have to just cow down because her selfish NDNs (who were intolerant of their neighbours noise) decide to buy a very high needs dog?
Of all the other thousands of breeds out there

And while Lockdown sounds an ideal time to get an animal because they are indoors......all their neighbours are indoors too,

I lived next to noisy dogs and they are a bloody nightmare !

DoTheNextRightThing · 28/05/2020 08:14

Oh my god, OP. Dogs bark. If it was a crying baby would you be saying the same thing? I'm sure they are training it to stop but it's not going to happen overnight. But they are entitled to have a pet.

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MMN123 · 28/05/2020 08:14

Op isn’t being hostile or unreasonable. Nobody sensible who is renting - not owning - a flat would get a puppy and hope the neighbours put up with it. Owners of flats take their chances knowing they might need to get rid of it or damage neighbourly relations. Bet the landlord doesn’t know it’s there and won’t be happy. Puppies chew. Ours chewed a whole section of skirting board! Absolutely not something Op should need to tolerate.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 08:16

@DoTheNextRightThing
Actually they aren’t entitled to have a pet. The lease expressly forbids it. They are renting so they are putting their landlord in breach of his or her leasehold - most likely without their knowledge. They are entitled all right. But not to a pet.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 08:17

Just inform the freeholder that there is a barking dog in the property. They won’t contact the tenant they will contact the landlord. Landlord will give them the choice to move the dog out or move themselves out.

Littleyellowfootball · 28/05/2020 08:18

Agree with above too.
Yanbu op. I would maybe attempt one time with them to see if they resolve issue then go to landlord.
I lived next door dog to someone with a noisy dog was awful- she would leave it in the sitting room which was the adjoining wall to us frequently during the days. It would bark and cry for her all day long - tried to have some discussion with her - could she move it to a different room, take it for a walk before she went out etc. But no joy. In the end I contacted environmental health and she was notified there had been a complaint. The complaint helped she was more mindful about keeping the noise down not leaving dog so long- she was mightily pissed off with me though 😂

JacobReesMogadishu · 28/05/2020 08:19

I’d report them for sure. I’d be less inclined to report them if they appeared to Be actively doing something to keep the dog quiet at 5am.

hfrdgftcsdg · 28/05/2020 08:19

My next door neighbours puppy barked for about 6 months. It was hell but did stop

HermanHermit · 28/05/2020 08:20

Our neighbours bought a hound; one of the largest breeds available and it’s now around 13stone of slobbering muscle. They’d never had a dog before and chose the Biggest breed available and haven’t trained it at all. It’s frequently reported wandering on the local Facebook and in fact just last night (after it had come into our garden and stared through the window), was reported roaming and looking too fierce for the person who found it to do anything but disappear in the other direction.
It’s a bloody liability and barks when they let it out at 2am and they stand on their doorstep politely begging it to come in.
OP - deal with it now. We were far too polite about the whole “it’s just a puppy” and it’s rather too late now. Get on to them every time it makes an unacceptable amount of noise in the hope that the message about responsible ownership and training gets through to them. But the instagram, ffs. I feel for you.

SoupDragon · 28/05/2020 08:20

Have you actually spoken to them about it?

I have read the thread but don't recall seeing this.

MMN123 · 28/05/2020 08:21

Same happened in our building. Tenants got an Alsatian that barked day and night. The flats with children were being tormented. It’s not ok. It doesn’t matter if it will settle eventually. It’s not like a crying baby. Babies are allowed and dogs are not allowed. So nothing like the same. You might be more tolerant if they would be neighbours for 20 years but they are renting so will most likely move in 6-12 months anyway. After selfishly disrupting your life for months.

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