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To think it grossly unfair that Emily Maitlis won't be on Newsnight tonight and DC and BJ are still in their jobs?

373 replies

theduchessstill · 27/05/2020 21:10

It just sums up this shit country and the state it's in imo.

Watching Johnson stuttering and blustering his way through the select committee this afternoon showing that he doesn't have a grip on the crisis at all and then finding that Maitlis, who is excellent at her job, has been chastised and suspended feels like yet another blow to decency in the UK. It comes after the government refusing to appear on the show for weeks as well - too scared.

How much longer will this shit go on?

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SuckingDieselFella · 27/05/2020 22:25

@RufustheLanglovingreindeer

Does your hairdresser have arms which are at least 2m long? Or was she wearing PPE which should have gone to a hospital?

SuckingDieselFella · 27/05/2020 22:26

@theduchessstill

Please give examples of these threats.

SuckingDieselFella · 27/05/2020 22:28

@zoemum2006

Can you explain what you are talking about please?

Clawdy · 27/05/2020 22:28

I always get the impression Laura K can't stand Boris.

Arborea · 27/05/2020 22:30

@crispysausagerolls

She is supposed to be impartial. It’s not like she mentioned the 3 labour MPs who broke lockdown rules.
Which 3 are they?
Sertchgi123 · 27/05/2020 22:30

@theduchessstill

It just sums up this shit country and the state it's in imo.

Watching Johnson stuttering and blustering his way through the select committee this afternoon showing that he doesn't have a grip on the crisis at all and then finding that Maitlis, who is excellent at her job, has been chastised and suspended feels like yet another blow to decency in the UK. It comes after the government refusing to appear on the show for weeks as well - too scared.

How much longer will this shit go on?

The BBC should be impartial. The press in this country are dangerously out of control. It’s about time a journalist had their knuckles rapped.
strugglingwithdeciding · 27/05/2020 22:30

Because she broke her contract by not being impartial I would imagine that would be in her contract no doubt
Besides 2 wrongs don't make a right ever

Kljnmw3459 · 27/05/2020 22:31

BBC is amazing in the way it manages to be accused of bias by each side.

Mummyoflittledragon · 27/05/2020 22:31

[quote Thecazelets]Yes, it's completely outrageous.

You can complain about her being removed though (I have), and I suppose at least it means people have circulated the original video of Maitlis's ( in my view) direct and accurate summary of events to people who might not have bothered to watch it otherwise.

bbc.co.uk/contact/complaints/make-a-complaint/#/Complaint[/quote]
Thanks for the link. I have put a complaint in. Disgusting that another woman has now been silenced. Such a good journalist.

BertiesLanding · 27/05/2020 22:31

I think it is an entirely childish argument to say that "the Tories have got away with it, so why shouldn't she be able to pull them up?". And it misses the point. As a BBC new presenter, she needs to be impartial.

And by "impartial" I mean impartial either way - whether it's something you agree with, or something you do not agree with. Whether you want her to be your voice on the tv, or whether you do not.

Speakeasy22 · 27/05/2020 22:31

She and the BBC should be impartial. Her first words "Dominic Cummings broke the rules..." are not factual. Whether you like it or not, there are different opinions about whether he broke the rules or not, given his circumstances. The BBC will stand by its journalists (rightly) but sometimes they have to acknowledge that this was not good journalism and in this case they have. Unfortunately it weakens, rather than strengthens, journalism when there is little attempt to stick to facts. By all means have people in the studio to debate the question, but the presenter has to remain neutral.

CharlottesPleb · 27/05/2020 22:32

Someone needs to speak truth to power.

Well that has never been (and likely will never be the BBC.

That aside, if the BBC wants to do opinion pieces there are ways of going about it that offer more balance, indeed it does so elsewhere. If anything it needs more balance, not less. Prefacing Newsnight with a Fox News style rant is a step not just to the right or left in terms of politics, but a step downwards in content quality.

Kljnmw3459 · 27/05/2020 22:32

I don't think there's any doubt over whether he broke the rules.

ribbetribbet · 27/05/2020 22:32

Emily Maitlis is not a newsreader. Have you seen newsnight? It's a news magazine show, not The News. They go into things in more depth and have all sorts of opinions on there. But as journalists they report the facts, and the fact is DC broke lockdown and the government is lying about that. Being impartial isn't just "meeting in the middle", or saying the official government line, it's reporting the facts impartially. You can't go wrong with the truth.

strugglingwithdeciding · 27/05/2020 22:33

@Teamlanister if she wants to not be impartial then she needs to work for another network that's the issue
Nothing to do with Tory apologists she would know what the rules were
And dc should resign but two wrongs don't make a right

HannahStern · 27/05/2020 22:33

SuckingDieselFella

Are you missing something?

BertiesLanding · 27/05/2020 22:33

And making this about her being a woman - and being silenced for being so - is such a straw-man argument that it would go up in flames if a match were even remotely in the vicinity. Which one is, thankfully.

BlueRaincoat1 · 27/05/2020 22:33

@SuckingDieselFella
Of course I understand they are different things. I wasn't suggesting otherwise.
And Cummings doesn't hold public office but Boris Johnson, Matt Hancock and the other senior cabinet ministers who have been falling over themselves to say that the rules allowed people to move around the country because they have concern that at some point in the future they may struggle with childcare, do.

hamstersarse · 27/05/2020 22:34

www.bbc.co.uk/editorialguidelines/guidelines/impartiality

These are the BBC rules, she seems to have broken them because she hasn’t represented all points of view. She spoke as if she was reporting facts. She wasn’t, it was opinion.

If she wants to be an opinion journalist she should work for ITV or C4🤷‍♀️

strugglingwithdeciding · 27/05/2020 22:35

@Zug2 how is she being punished as a women for a mans crime what a load of rubbish she broke protocol for who she works with very likely in her in her contract had it of been a male journalist they would receive the same punishment

StoneofDestiny · 27/05/2020 22:36

Does your hairdresser have arms which are at least 2m long? Or was she wearing PPE which should have gone to a hospital?

Some people have hairdressers in their family!

On TV some makeup artists/hairdressers are still working (like camera crews, autocue operators etc)

Peapod29 · 27/05/2020 22:37

Grossly unfair. Everything she said is fact, not opinion. It’s not her fault our PM and his most special advisor are so shit that people reporting facts sound like a smear campaign against him.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 27/05/2020 22:37

@CharlottesPleb

YABU.

She has no business taking money to be a BBC journalist, with an express duty to be impartial, money that is extracted from rich and poor on pain of prison, then acting like she's left wing Tucker Carlson.

I am forced to pay for her to actively not do her very simple low stakes job and broadcast it to the country. How is that remotely fair?

And I am forced to pay a Prime Minister and his cabinet along with his SSpad their wages to lie to me and tell me that black is white and that the rules apply even when they don't. Emily Maitless's opening comments were the truth. Dominic Cummings's fairy tale backed up by Boris Johnson's gaslighting is despicable behaviour. I know who I would far rather see removed.
BreadandMarmalade · 27/05/2020 22:37

Absolutely the correct decision to remove her.

She is paid by the taxpayer and should be impartial, not using her own opinion to influence the viewer.

The BBC are absolutely bias and should be accountable.

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 27/05/2020 22:40

[quote SuckingDieselFella]@RufustheLanglovingreindeer

Does your hairdresser have arms which are at least 2m long? Or was she wearing PPE which should have gone to a hospital?[/quote]
Nope, neither

I think its a bit of a reach to assume someone is breaking social distancing rules because their hair looks nice (or like its been cut)

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