People comparing Cummings to Caroline Flack

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I am quite shocked to see a number of posts in the last few days comparing the media treatment of Dominic Cummings to that of Caroline Flack . And how we need to #bekind
Surely there is no comparison! Caroline was a minor celebrity who was hounded due to a domestic incident
Cummings told us as a nation what we can't do and then did it himself while other people lost jobs and couldn't say goodbye to dying loved ones due to sticking to HIS rules. People are outraged that other (labour) mp's have done similar but they aren't the prime ministers puppet master

Surely people can see that these are totally different scenarios and people have a right to be outraged this time!

I’d like to know this too. I thought I heard that she had tested negative but can’t find anything now.

I can't even see if he tested positive. Would have been big news if he had. In fact, I'm having trouble believing either of them were ill at all.

Of course the press is to blame. The media has become far too powerful in this country.

I'm a floating voter not a tory, so a bit more impartial than some of the rabid left wingers posting on Mumsnet.

We had voted to leave before Johnson got in.

Of course the press is to blame. The media has become far too powerful in this country.

Nothing good on Netflix 😂 So i'll do what the press tell me.

Nothing to do with with a lying Government putting the nation's health at risk during a Pandemic? Nah

@pumpkinbump

We had voted to leave before Johnson got in.

Following a campaign headed by Johnson and Gove with Cummings in the background. Leave is nothing to actually do with Cummings's current situation but I mentioned it in response to another poster blaming the press for dividing the country. The irony.

Clearly posters don't have any insight into exactly the effect the press have on society. It would be as well to acquaint yourselves with the sociological aspects of behaviour and what influences us. You might then be in a better position to have an opinion.

I am far too cynical. I can just see Cummings sat rubbing his hands together, working out the best angle to relieve the pressure.

"We need something that's going to appeal to your Hello reader, you know, Mr. White Van's wife. Have one of our astro-turfers on Mumsnet plant some fluff comparing me to... what was that suicide girl called, the really trashy one? Yes, they'll lap that up. Be kind! Spot on!"

Cue maniacal laughter.

Clearly posters don't have any insight into exactly the effect the press have on society. It would be as well to acquaint yourselves with the sociological aspects of behaviour and what influences us. You might then be in a better position to have an opinion.

Oh bore off.

I'm in a great position to have an opinion because I have a BRAIN and a vote.

Has domestic violence now been renamed domedtic incident?

@Sertchgi123

Clearly posters don't have any insight into exactly the effect the press have on society. It would be as well to acquaint yourselves with the sociological aspects of behaviour and what influences us. You might then be in a better position to have an opinion.

I am well aware of the effect the behaviour that the party of the current PM and his cabinet has had on the British people, especially those that are low paid and disabled, over the last decade.

@TheWordWomanIsTaken ah sorry I misread.

It's just how we roll these days

People won't be happy until he is wrung out to dry. There is no such thing as healthy disagreement. Instead, the way of the world is to use any snippet of information and take it completely out of context and construct a story that incites something that will enrage people. And go from there!

I don't care if Cummings resigns, or stays. It makes no difference to me - and probably anyone really! The press have painted him as some demi-god able to influence the entire country, probably because he doesn't respect them. And there is something he is right on - they deserve no respect at all. But whether he is a demi-God - do people seriously think one man can have such influence - and all that man we saw on Sunday?

I don't want to hear ANOTHER press conference all about Dominic Cummings, I want to know how the lockdown is going to be released, I want to know about how we are going to recover from this, I want to hear about a strategy to protect those who need shielding, I want to hear about the results of antibody testing in the UK, the track and trace app effectiveness. There won't be any, instead, the press set the agenda of whipping up a storm for no real reason other than clicky stats and being 'in control' of the conversation.

Listening to the radio this morning, govt advert comes on “Stay alert, control the virus” blah de blah de blah “ if you have Covid symptoms stay at home and do not travel” I didn’t hear anything about using your judgement or head off to a remote cottage on your father’s farm.

I don't want to hear ANOTHER press conference all about Dominic Cummings, I want to know how the lockdown is going to be released, I want to know about how we are going to recover from this, I want to hear about a strategy to protect those who need shielding, I want to hear about the results of antibody testing in the UK, the track and trace app effectiveness.

I want all that too but I don't want a Prime Minister and a parade of government speaking to me like I am a fool.

I don't want to feel that the people leading this country are untrustworthy, arrogant and remorseless. And right now I do.

And this from their OWN mouths.

It is so patronising to think this is just party political or whipped up by the press as if it didn't exist otherwise.

Like ordinary people can't see and hear things that genuinely worry and horrify them.

I don't need a thesis on the sociological aspects of behaviour ( as if only professors can really understand wtf ? ) to feel strongly about this and no I don't think this is 'whipped up' from nothing. I am disgusted with this government.

The press have been a disgrace on many occasions but please don't make out that my opinion is just click bait.

I don’t agree with what Cummings did by a long stretch. I’ve been ill with long-term COVID-19 symptoms for 3 months and we’ve coped without travelling across the country where we have extended family in case we need help with childcare. And one of our 2 adopted DDs (11) has SEN and they both have attachment issues. We’ve simply coped.

However, BoJo is clearly not going to sack his adviser and Cummings isn’t going to resign. They don’t have to because they have an 80 seat majority. They also won’t be facing another election for another 4 years.

How long are we going to go on flogging a dead horse as it were? I’m sorry to say this. I think Cummings should have been sacked, but he’s clearly not going to be.

And incidentally whilst he had Covid his child spent the night in Durham hospital. So you have no idea if he did physical harm or not in terms of spreading the disease.

His son had a test which was negative.

Cummings then tried to wriggle out of taking any responsibility for what he did by trying to use a loophole in the rules.A loophole intended to allow abuse victims to be able to leave their homes and go elsewhere

That was tweeted by Jess Philips but the exception applied to all small children;

The Independent -
"What childcare options are there for parents who develop coronavirus symptoms."

‘If you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance,’ Dr Jenny Harries, deputy chief medical officer for England, said in March."

“A small child clearly is a vulnerable individual, so in this case, although we are encouraging everybody to stay in their own households–that’s the unit with the same risk of exposure–clearly if you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance,” Dr Harries said."

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-symptoms-parents-children-childcare-dominic-cummings-a9529481.html

There is no comparrison. It is a clever line which has been pushed by a lot of dodgy Russian troll farms.

he is not elected and has too much power

And will have more if he keeps his job. On the level of an MP, or SoS arguably.

How long are we going to go on flogging a dead horse as it were? I’m sorry to say this. I think Cummings should have been sacked, but he’s clearly not going to be.

I hope he does resign and I hope we haven't seen the end of it in terms of that.

And I think it's a terrible distraction from what the government should really be concentrating on.

His son had a test which was negative.

But they only knew that afterwards. The were taking that risk of bringing Covid from the London hotspot to Durham.

Which is exactly why you were not meant to travel.

We need to keep on till Cummings goes.

It's interesting that the posters who are least willing to entertain the idea of Cummings himself having any responsibility for the shitshow surrounding him are mainly claiming to be floating voters. Whereas the MN Tory regulars are tending to either steer clear of the subject, be critical of him or take a few random swipes from aound the sidelines.

I’ve seen a few #bekind posts about him on Facebook. Fuck that, he doesn’t have a conscience, or the ability to feel shame or see any reason at all why people may think what he did was wrong. He thinks he can do exactly as he pleases and is undeserving of my empathy.

He lied and squirmed his way through a fundamentally dishonest Brexit campaign and the aftermath he is doing the same here. The news about him altering the blog post is typically him.

As Marina Hyde wrote yesterday, the problem with deliberately stirring up distrust and division is that it has a tendency to backfire on you. He thought he was immune from consequences, he isn't.