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If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

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NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 26/05/2020 07:41

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion?

YANBU it's made things worse
YABU its cleared things up for me

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 28/05/2020 16:22

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Really? Maitliss comes across like Susannah Reid, just a glossy presenter and a crap one at that.
You are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. And your misogyny shines through.
onceuponatimer · 28/05/2020 16:22

Of course they breached the rules.

The key message 'stay at home'. Instead they travelled all the way from South to North when they had/ were likely to develop Corona virus symptoms.
Anyone who thinks their circumstances were exceptional is a fool. There have been tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of parents who have been ill. The chances of them both being hospitalised were extremely low and they apparently were lucky enough to have several close relatives within a few miles.

Driving 30 miles during lockdown was clearly a breach of the rules and driving with 'wierd' eyesight would certainly contravene DVLA regulations anyway.

However, this has moved on and it is the response of the PM and other members of the cabinet that is far more objectionable at this stage.

I don't think whoever walked their dog twice a day had Corona virus symptoms so not sure the relevance of that comment.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 16:26

@MarshaBradyo

breach /briːtʃ/ Learn to pronounce noun
  1. an act of breaking or failing to observe a law, agreement, or code of conduct.

Explain the difference?

'Barnard Castle trip may have been 'minor breach' of lockdown rules -'

It's the may have that is the relevant bit, but thanks for the dictionary c&p. It isn't remotely as damning as Piers Morgan and his rabid fans are desperate to believe.

I think rather than people repeatedly saying they haven't seen family for weeks etc etc, I'd be more interested if someone said they were cautioned by police for driving in lockdown to isolate near family should they need childcare as they were ill. Strangely none have come forward.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 16:26

@GetOffYourHighHorse

Really? Maitliss comes across like Susannah Reid, just a glossy presenter and a crap one at that.
She’s an absolutely deadly forensic interviewer. One of the most talented journalists around. Watch her interview with Prince Andrew, she quietly and calmly eviscerated him. As a pp said, you’re scraping the barrel now.
FliesandPies · 28/05/2020 16:26

I was just putting a more accurate spin on your comment

You mean twisted the words to make it sound as though they meant something else? No wonder you're such a staunch defender of this shower of shites.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 16:28

'You are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. And your misogyny shines through.'

Ok, I'll rephrase. I thought Maitliss was just a glossy presenter like Pip Schofe. Journalist my arse.

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 16:28

He didn't do what Calderwood did and just go for a jolly

Oh no of course @GetOffYourHighHorse he drove to test his eyes. ( the river bank )

And the piss in the woods ( the bluebell woods)

No Horsey don't care about 'minor breaches'
care about massive government ones.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2020 16:29

It's the may have that is the relevant bit, but thanks for the dictionary c&p. No problem you seemed to be struggling.

If it’s the may have you have the issue with read Sabrina’s post. This thread or identical one.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 16:30

Yes journalist @GetOffYourHighHorse. Glad you mentioned your arse, you’re talking through it.

IntermittentParps · 28/05/2020 16:31

Durham police probably couldn't face being dragged further into the political mess. In a way I don't blame them, but I am disappointed. In Northern Ireland someone was recently jailed (not fined –jailed) for driving a long distance in contravention of lockdown. It's double standards at its finest.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 16:32

'She’s an absolutely deadly forensic interviewer. One of the most talented journalists around. Watch her interview with Prince Andrew, she quietly and calmly eviscerated him. As a pp said, you’re scraping the barrel now.'

Oh not 'forensic' please. That currently overused word.

Prince Andrew 'eviscerated' himself. I think you could have put Ant and Dec in front of him and he'd have been equally as revealing, he didn't seem to have prepared at all.

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 16:33

Love Emily Maitliss. Clever AND glossy.

Roaring at @GetOffYourHighHorse lashing in every direction, totally high on Durham Police's "minor breaches".

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 16:40

Prince Andrew 'eviscerated' himself

That’s quite a trick. I imagine it’s impossible to remove one’s own entrails.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 16:42

@Alsohuman

Prince Andrew 'eviscerated' himself

That’s quite a trick. I imagine it’s impossible to remove one’s own entrails.

Ohhhh so you were literal when you said Maitliss eviscerated him then Grin
sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 16:43

Forensic and glossy journo Maitlis
Phillip Schofield
Sussanah Reid
Calderwood
Kinnock
Alistair Campbell

most of twitter

All in a few minutes. Literally bonkers with " minor breaches" delight.

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 16:47

SabrinaThwaite
Come on Clavinova, at least quote ALL of what DAG posted:

How much do you want me to quote? You are not quoting from the same tweet as me!

My point was that the police statement is confusing - which it is. Some more DAG tweets;

"By the time there is, ahem, clarification that Durham police concluded that there had been a breach which might have needed police intervention, then the caravan will have moved on." ...

"There you go: Lucky Dom and the badly worded police statement."

"I think the Durham police decision is the correct one."

"A minor infringement of 6(1) warrants such a minor response - as long as that would be consistent with what would have happened any other member of the public in those circumstances."

"Durham police should be commended, if not on the wording of their statement, but on confirmation that minor breaches of the regulations should be met with advice - at least in first instance."

"Other police forces should take note."

DAG has a link to the police statement;

www.durham.police.uk/news-and-events/Pages/News%20Articles/Durham-Constabulary-press-statement--.aspx

FliesandPies · 28/05/2020 16:47

That's a very high horse...

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 16:59

@FliesandPies

That's a very high horse...
Ah yes when you cannot argue your point try and fail to be funny instead. It's a 0/10 from me.
NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 28/05/2020 17:02

I'd be so mortified to admit I believed what the story dominic told in the rose garden Grin

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sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 17:03

I think you might have WON the internet there @GetOffYourHighHorse

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 17:06

Nope. Exceptional circumstances (brought in to protect people and children from abusive homes)

That's not correct - the exceptional circumstances included all young children. Jess Philips retweeted something from Grazia Magazine regarding Dominic Cummings because the original tweet was publicity for the Domestic Abuse Bill and linked to a video clip of herself.

The Independent -
"At the government’s daily press conference on 24 March, England’s deputy chief medical officer Dr Jenny Harries spoke of the “exceptional circumstance” of an adult unable to care for a young child during the pandemic."

“A small child clearly is a vulnerable individual, so in this case, although we are encouraging everybody to stay in their own households–that’s the unit with the same risk of exposure–clearly if you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance,” Dr Harries said.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/coronavirus-symptoms-parents-children-childcare-dominic-cummings-a9529481.html

JudyCoolibar · 28/05/2020 17:07

It's the may have that is the relevant bit

And also isn't what Durham police actually said.

knittingaddict · 28/05/2020 17:08

I'd be more interested if someone said they were cautioned by police for driving in lockdown to isolate near family should they need childcare as they were ill. Strangely none have come forward.

Could be one of two reasons for that HighHorse.

On one would be stupid enough to do that with coronavirus. Most people have enough sense not to do something like that. DC excluded of course.

No on would be stupid enough to tell us if they had because they know it's the wrong thing to do.

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 17:10

Jess Phillips

Walkaround · 28/05/2020 17:10

If exceptional circumstances meant anyone who thought they might get coronavirus symptoms in the near future could travel as far as they wanted with as many sick people as they wanted in tow, in order to get close to someone healthy who could look after their children for them in the unlikely event the need should ever arise, they should have said so. Lockdown would have looked incredibly different, then.