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If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

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NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 26/05/2020 07:41

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion?

YANBU it's made things worse
YABU its cleared things up for me

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CendrillonSings · 28/05/2020 14:56

Alsohuman

More rubbish predictions? Will you never learn?

You did say you’d eat your shoe if Boris wasn’t gone by Christmas, right? Grin

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 14:56

It's even more worrying the person who helped write the rules doesn't even realise they had a small minor breech of them. 🤦🏼‍♀️

We police by consent in this country.

There are plenty of circumstances where 2 people get in a scuffle (in a pub say) and are spoken to, or twok a lipstick from boots in their teens. They have it explained why what the did was wrong, what laws it broke and why. Quite often there is no official caution etc.
Doesn't mean hitting someone or stealing a lipstick wasn't a crime though.

A breach is a breach however minor and whether or not action is taken.

Iwalkinmyclothing · 28/05/2020 14:58

Durham Police stopped short of confirming it was a breach - "may have", "might have."

You might find this interesting: twitter.com/BarristerSecret/status/1265986473955819520

SabrinaThwaite · 28/05/2020 15:07

@Clavinova

A minor breach but a breach nonetheless.

Durham Police stopped short of confirming it was a breach - "may have", "might have."

The "might" in the statement means that the police would have "considered" that there was a breach for the exercise the 8(3)(a) power.

It would not be for the police officer to determine criminal liability: that is a matter for the court.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2020 15:11

Oh right Sabrina that’s helpful I wondered about the ‘might’.

FliesandPies · 28/05/2020 15:12

Ridiculous to focus on the Barnard Castle trip and excuse the drive to Durham in the first place. If you believe his story, that he took his family to Durham while he and his wife were ill with CV, and having no exceptional circumstances at that point - of course that was a breach of lockdown.

The Police can say what they like and Johnson can try to move it on all he likes - too late. It is embedded in people's minds that Cummings has cheated, has lied, has show contempt. They might forget for a while but they will never forgive that.

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 15:36

There is a possibility that the security phone call and the trip are there are related.

If he really did travel up there for security reason it would have been far more sensible to say that 3 weeks ago rather than chuck it in between another load of twaddle in the rose garden!

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 15:37

@WatcherintheRye

Why has the Cummings affair been dropped from BBC News?

Coronavirus tracking now top story. Don't know how Matt Hancock has the brass neck to lecture us on on how important compliance with self-isolation guidance is!

Oh fgs how many more days do you want Alistair Campbell as a guest on news programmes giving his opinion on it.

Track and trace is the top story now. Neither Cummings nor his wife breached social distancing during their 'minor breach' so the risk was minimal.

I bet half the posters on here are the ones who have been reporting neighbours and busybodying around parks ringing the police about sunbathers.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 15:41

I imagine the reason it’s no longer the BBC top story is embarrassment about their treatment of Emily Maitlis.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2020 15:42

I bet half the posters on here are the ones who have been reporting neighbours and busybodying around parks ringing the police about sunbathers.

Nope. But I bet there are people reported under higher scrutiny than Cummings.

I also do care who the PM backs and why, and when MPs cannot answer a direct question.

ITonyah · 28/05/2020 15:44

Oh fgs how many more days do you want Alistair Campbell as a guest on news programmes giving his opinion on it

Absolutely none more days thank you.

onceuponatimer · 28/05/2020 15:47

'I bet half the posters on here are the ones who have been reporting neighbours and busybodying around parks ringing the police about sunbathers.'

@GetOffYourHighHorse (above)

Nope, not me.

I just don't like a bunch of entitled, lying hypocrites who think they are above the rules that the themselves wrote and asked the rest of the population to follow. These are people in charge of running the country and should be leading by example.

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 15:48

Neither Cummings nor his wife breached social distancing during their 'minor breach' so the risk was minimal.

Give it a rest. You still think it is just about the risks?🙄

It's about people who construct the rules breaking them. And then gov ministers lying about it. Bollocks to a minor breach.

Unless DC drove to BC and coughed at someone it wasn't going to be the polices problem really.

There are many many people, Tory MPs included who think he shouldn't even have been in Durham in the first place. Er what with a LOCKDOWN.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 28/05/2020 15:48

GetOffYourHighHorse, ITonyah
I personally want Alastair Campbell on the news every day discussing this as it is relevant.
I don't want gullibles like you policing threads.
You are entitled to your opinions but they are no more important than the options of those of us who actually see the seriousness of our government lying to us to protect this man.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 28/05/2020 15:49

opinions not options obvs

ITonyah · 28/05/2020 15:51

I don't want gullibles like you policing threads

Bad luck.

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 15:51

I bet half the posters on here are the ones who have been reporting neighbours and busybodying around parks ringing the police about sunbathers.

Yeah right. Whatever. Its because I'm "a busybody" that I want a trustworthy government.

Jog on @GetOffYourHighHorse

SabrinaThwaite · 28/05/2020 15:56

I think all the posters like ITonyah, CendrillonSings and GetOffYourHighHorse that are trying to sweep Cummings under the carpet are doing a great job of reminding us exactly why it is a big deal and to stay pissed off and lobby our MPs.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 28/05/2020 15:57

'personally want Alastair Campbell on the news every day discussing this as it is relevant. I don't want gullibles like you policing threads.'

The man sadly seems to be having some kind of public breakdown it's very concerning to see, his family should direct him away from msm and twitter.

Twitter is full of msm 'Durham police say he DID BREAK RULEZ!!!!', when in fact they said he didn't, rather his Barnard castle trio was a minor breach. I can tell the difference, why can't you?

They socially distanced, they self isolated. They did not break the rules.

Let's hope the news is more about the concerning situation in Hong Kong rather than drippy Maitliss or Cummings.

Humphriescushion · 28/05/2020 15:58

Yes lots want it go away! Think it is going to keep popping up for sometime.

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 15:59

Get off I've reported no one. Nor have I broken the guidelines. But then I wasn't instrumental in writing them either.

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 16:01

They socially distanced, they self isolated. They did not break the rules.

They didn't stay at home. They travelled to a second home. Their situation wasn't extraordinary.

yeah they totally BROKE RULEZ!

FliesandPies · 28/05/2020 16:01

'Durham police say he DID BREAK RULEZ!!!!', when in fact they said he didn't, rather his Barnard castle trio was a minor breach. I can tell the difference, why can't you?

Do you know what 'breach' means? A breach of the rules means that the rules have been broken. That's probably why people can't tell the difference.

Pembsgirl · 28/05/2020 16:02

As a matter of interest, to those who think what he did was OK, have you not noticed the bit in his statement, where his son was taken to hospital accompanied by his mother who actually had Covid-19, in an ambulance, thereby taking the virus from London where the Cummins live, to the paramedics they travelled with, and the hospital in Durham?

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 16:02

The "might" in the statement means that the police would have "considered" that there was a breach for the exercise the 8(3)(a) power.

The other well known lawyer on twitter, David Allen Green (Financial Times) - "Durham Police...include word "might" in a confusingly worded sentence."