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If you were annoyed at Dominic Cummings before

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NoMoreReluctantCustodians · 26/05/2020 07:41

How has his performance in the rose garden affected your opinion?

YANBU it's made things worse
YABU its cleared things up for me

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TheWordWomanIsTaken · 28/05/2020 13:01

@Alsohuman

I think you misinterpreted what I said *@Thewordwomanistaken*. Johnson promised to unite the country. He has. I don’t think he meant we’d be united in quite this way.
Sorry!!! Yes, he did didn't he. Like you no doubt, I strongly suspect that this wasn't the unity he had in mind though!! The deluded buffoon probably can't understand why the people won't be taken in by his bumbling bollocks anymore.
LaurieMarlow · 28/05/2020 13:02

I suspect DC is the type that breaks before he bends.

TheWordWomanIsTaken · 28/05/2020 13:03

@ITonyah

I expect dc will now apologise.
Like that would be enough at this stage? Not for me. Our government has lied and tried to hoodwink us in a time national emergency. When this hasn't worked it has encouraged us to simply move on like good little people. This is so much bigger than Cummings's original actions.
ITonyah · 28/05/2020 13:55

I've just seen the police are taking no action so technically that puts a line under it.

Walkaround · 28/05/2020 13:57

Technically it does no such thing, as people want his resignation, not his arrest.

SabrinaThwaite · 28/05/2020 13:57

@ITonyah

I've just seen the police are taking no action so technically that puts a line under it.
It really doesn’t.

Cummings acted unlawfully, despite Johnson and Braverman telling the nation that he hadn’t.

It opens up a whole new can of worms, particularly for Braverman.

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 13:59

It puts a line under it at police level. Sure.

But now you have a split party with the top dogs actually tweeting no crime was commited and trying to brush it under the carpet.

Now they know they were wrong and should have apologised it'll be more interesting from here what they decide to do.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2020 14:00

It won’t put a line under it for the public and therefore the media.

It’ll make some feel vindicated that they weren’t imagining things which is a slight help, but not much.

itsgettingweird · 28/05/2020 14:00

Sabrina. She's gone very quiet. She's ignoring all emails from constituents about it and people are calling her out on Fb the past few days asking why she isn't responding.
It's just got a much more interesting read Grin

Walkaround · 28/05/2020 14:03

I wonder, if the police had stopped Cummings on the day he went to Barnard Castle, whether they really would just have let him go on his way if he had told them then that he was only out in his car to test his eyesight?

ITonyah · 28/05/2020 14:04

I doubt he'll resign if there aren't any charges against him.

Walkaround · 28/05/2020 14:05

Or are they assuming he would instead have lied/told the truth, that he was driving to a nice spot with his family to celebrate his wife’s birthday?

SabrinaThwaite · 28/05/2020 14:08

@ITonyah

I doubt he'll resign if there aren't any charges against him.
But Johnson and Cummings have now dragged Braverman into it, and she should resign (obviously she won’t unless forced too).

Note that the Lord Chancellor, Robert Buckland, has been very quiet.

The80sweregreat · 28/05/2020 14:11

The 1922 committee are on wiki about its origins and is mostly formed of the back bencher MPs of the Conservative party ( plus a few others)
Interesting read.

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 14:12

ITV -

Durham Police concludes Dominic Cummings Barnard Castle trip may have been 'minor breach' of lockdown rules -

"Dominic Cummings may have committed a "minor breach" of lockdown rules when he made a journey to Barnard Castle, Durham Police's investigation has concluded."

^"Mr Cummings, Boris Johnson's chief aide, made a 260-mile trip to stay close to his parents in Durham when he was ill with coronavirus symptoms during lockdown.""

"Durham Police "does not consider" an offence was committed by making the journey."

"But Mr Cummings made a further trip to check his driving ability following eye sight difficulties which he had suffered while ill."

Durham Police say that in making the 52-mile round journey, there "might have been a minor breach" of coronavirus regulations that "would have warranted police intervention".

"The force said the breach is considered minor because there was "no apparent breach of social distancing".

"It added: "Had a Durham Constabulary police officer stopped Mr Cummings driving to or from Barnard Castle, the officer would have spoken to him, and, having established the facts, likely advised Mr Cummings to return to the address in Durham, providing advice on the dangers of travelling during the pandemic crisis."

"Had this advice been accepted by Mr Cummings, no enforcement action would have been taken."

www.itv.com/news/2020-05-28/durham-police-concludes-dominic-cummings-barnard-castle-trip-was-minor-breach-of-lockdown-rules/

GreyGardens88 · 28/05/2020 14:15

I'm still incandescent with rage at the governments response to this..BJ, DC, Matt Hancock, Rishi Sunak and all that ghastly lot.

I really hope the public remember this slap on the face and it's all brought up again before the next election

sleepingpup · 28/05/2020 14:18

Pity he was PM chief advisor of writing those lockdown rules Clav.

pigsDOfly · 28/05/2020 14:22

He can't, and won't apologise now. He'd lose too much face and anyway, as pp said, it's gone way beyond that, it's just too late.

Either he'll have to go, which I don't think Johnson can, or will countenance, because he (Johnson) would be left floundering even more than he is already, or the pair of them are going to try to tough it out and Johnson will insists he stays, which I think is what will happen.

Hopefully, that will result in Johnson being brought down and both of them going.

Logically, I don't really see how either of them can come back from this and go on governing the country, but having said that, I have a nasty suspicion their overwhelming arrogance and complete belief in their own self importance might just carry them through.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2020 14:23

Pigsdofly - apt yes they do ;

I agree they will continue to tough it out. We’ll see how long people’s memories are at the next election.

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 14:28

Pity he was PM chief advisor of writing those lockdown rules Clav.

Indeed.

Alsohuman · 28/05/2020 14:33

This is just going to rumble on and on. It’s not about what Cummings did any more, it’s about who’s running the country. They can double down all they like but over 60 Tory MPs want Cummings gone now. It’s decision time for Johnson - get rid of Cummings or go down with him. Tories are utterly ruthless when it suits them, they dumped Thatcher fast enough.

mondaynoon · 28/05/2020 14:36

Surely he has to go now. A minor breach but a breach nonetheless.

Clavinova · 28/05/2020 14:47

A minor breach but a breach nonetheless.

Durham Police stopped short of confirming it was a breach - "may have", "might have."

WatcherintheRye · 28/05/2020 14:52

Why has the Cummings affair been dropped from BBC News?

Coronavirus tracking now top story. Don't know how Matt Hancock has the brass neck to lecture us on on how important compliance with self-isolation guidance is!

IntermittentParps · 28/05/2020 14:56

I can only hope the 1922 lot are having a war council right now.

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