Dominic Cummings

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Anyone watch the car crash interview today?. What an absolute load of bollocks, no apology lots of inning and ahhing. Cummings is an odious little man too full of his own self importance. Must have a lot of dirt on the government I think as anyone else would have been sacked. Had to go to Durham incase they both got sick, his wife was unwell - can't he look after a 4 year old? He had to drive to a beauty spot half an hour away from Durham to see if he was ok to drive?? Doesn't his wife drive? Lost all respect for the government, not that I had much to start with.

being as the guidance said things about exceptional circumstances and children The exceptional circumstance clause in the bill was to ensure it was lawful for children/the vulnerable to be removed from the main residence in cases of child/domestic abuse.

Not having childcare/fear of both parents being too ill to look after children is in no way an exceptional circumstance for this pandemic. It's a standard, every day circumstance for all parents.

I find it difficult to get my head around parents being ill and thinking ‘no, I must stay home and feel utterly desperate and possibly leave my child with no one capable of looking after them.’

Most people don’t get hospitalised with coronavirus. I’m sure it’s shit, but so are many other illnesses that you deal with whilst having a child at home. The child is four, not a baby. There were two parents in the home, not one struggling ill alone. If things get so bad that you feel you need help, deal with it as it comes and by all means ask for help - but you don’t drive for hundreds of miles at the first sign of one of you being ill as a precautionary measure, that to me is completely bonkers.

But the rest I think is completely understandable, especially that he didn't feel comfortable his family convalescing in his London home. He's not a celebrity, he and his family haven't invited the attention / backlash and unfortunately I can well believe a nasty minority of his political opponents and the media are camped outside their house

Really? Going to work when you should have been self isolating? Undertaking a very long drive with a four year old when both you and your wife are ill? Hoping that you won't have to make a toilet stop? Filling up with petrol beforehand why you should have been self isolating? Travelling all that distance rather than asking your adult nieces to come to you? Driving to the hospital when you had been incapacitated the day before, and you have relatives who could do it for you? Refuelling and driving back when you're supposed to be self-isolating? And so on, and so on ....

And he has said he didn’t walk around at BC didn’t he.

He said they went for a walk by the river. That's when the retired chemistry teacher saw them, the one who went home and Googled the plate of their Range Rover, to see if it was really Cummings so far from London. Not as juicy proof for a newspaper to print as a photo, but pretty useful evidence that he really saw Cummings - which was being denied until Cummings admitted it today).

And the witness who saw him dancing to Abba on his mum's birthday was a neighbour, who first reported it.

Tory bits are out in force tonight

oh please no, not another Boris byproduct...

I did quite enjoy his indignant response that he didn't ask his friends to help because it would have meant endangering their lives, so he wanted his nieces to endanger their lives instead.

but you don’t drive for hundreds of miles at the first sign of one of you being ill as a precautionary measure, that to me is completely bonkers.

But the thing is, the guidelines did allow for people to use their own judgement so he can just say he used his judgement and be within the guidelines.

And he has said he didn’t walk around at BC didn’t he

Not only has he said he did walk around, he said he stopped for a sit-down. At a time when we were told we could only be outside for exercise, and that that definitely didn't include sitting down.

And the witness who saw him dancing to Abba on his mum's birthday was a neighbour, who first reported it.

I find it hard to believe a neighbour would lie, they have to live near the Cummings and are possibly also farmers.

It's such an act. The way he talked about his wife, as though she were someone feeble who needed looking after.

She's a journalist and Editor of The Spectator, for God's sake. And a driver.

She also wrote & published an article about their 'lockdown Corona experience' and neglected to mention anything at all about leaving the house, the Durham dashes or stays in the grounds of her parents properties.

Bloody idiots.

Poor don best mates with borris no police and no protection went away for 2 weeks now all ok. If he was such a good dad why not leave or take his child to private estate before why not report to police. He is a bullshitter and he has given me a laugh watching his show.poor rich boy.

but you don’t drive for hundreds of miles at the first sign of one of you being ill as a precautionary measure, that to me is completely bonkers

But the thing is, the guidelines did allow for people to use their own judgement so he can just say he used his judgement and be within the guidelines

Well, no, because the question of whether you should drive when you might not be safe to do so has nothing whatsoever to do with the Coronavirus guidelines, and everything to do with the normal road traffic rules about driving safely.

And the witness who saw him dancing to Abba on his mum's birthday was a neighbour, who first reported it.

He should have taken a photo. If he was the type of person to feel strongly enough to report this, then take a photo as evidence. He probably was aware of who his neighbours were. Then he’d have had to resign I’m sure.

If it’s all so innocent, why has it taken him 3 days to come up with this drivel?

And then before that, No 10 have had weeks to explain what happened. Why didn’t they if it’s all fine?

I haven’t seen anything about him celebrating, other than ‘someone seen him’, surely they’d be a photo or something if this was true

Why "surely"? Who routinely takes photographs of their neighbours in their own garden?

Perhaps he could have checked his bank/credit card statements to see if he filled up on the drive back to London, most people pay for fuel with a card.

Not only has he said he did walk around, he said he stopped for a sit-down. At a time when we were told we could only be outside for exercise, and that that definitely didn't include sitting down.

I’m sure he said he didn’t walk around, it wasn’t sightseeing. They sat down to make a decision about whether to drive home. And was that where he said his kids needed the toilet so that’s why they stopped or was that something else? He could be lying of course and if he is I’m sure he’ll be caught out.

Not having childcare/fear of both parents being too ill to look after children is in no way an exceptional circumstance for this pandemic. It's a standard, every day circumstance for all parents.

Exactly. I’ve never heard of this possible scenario being discussed because for most parents it’s a no brainier - and clearly up until now, the government thought it a no brainier - that even if you do catch the virus you would still keep your kids at home with you and look after them yourself. As if parents up and down the country have been palming their kids off on others at the first sign of a continuous cough and raised temp
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and speculate that these parents have never had to look after their own child when they haven’t felt well... sickness bug, severe cold, bad hangover... there’s probably been a nanny around to take over for them. The thought of having to parent whilst not feeling 100% was just too much. Gormless parenting.

@Noconceptofnormal - that's not correct - his wife is a journalist who has published numerous articles, including many about her experiences of coronavirus and the 'almost comical lockdown of London'.

descrier.co.uk/politics/dominic-cummings-and-wife-tried-to-cover-up-lockdown-breach-in-articles-for-the-spectator/

He should have taken a photo. If he was the type of person to feel strongly enough to report this, then take a photo as evidence. He probably was aware of who his neighbours were. Then he’d have had to resign I’m sure

Dancing to Abba on the property you're staying in isn't a resigning matter in itself. I doubt the neighbour knew about all the other lies that do make this a resigning matter.

Who routinely takes photographs of their neighbours in their own garden?

I agree but Who reports their neighbours? There’s been numerous threads on here about should I report my neighbour having their kids visit, or having a party and people seem to say No, mind your own business.

People saying "Can we please move on now".

It's so inappropriate. What about Hillsborough, Grenfell, WW2, The Holocaust.

What you mean is that you would like everyone to let you off with an inconvenient truth, and I find that a very shallow argument.

Reporting your neighbour’s son did breaching the rules is very different to taking a picture of them. The first is anonymous and the second not so much. Also, the neighbour wouldn’t have wanted to piss off Cummings’ parents by taking a picture of the family.

@Experimenopause
Of course I'm not saying it's right

What I mean is that we can't prove he lied, the press tried their best to catch him out and in my eyes they failed. The cynic in me thinks DC isn't going anywhere much to my disappointment.

Unfortunately we have an incompetent government lead by a PM who is an expert in twisting the truth voted in on a big majority because he's a character and a bit of a lad.

I do think they will be weaker as a result of this and some public confidence will be lost, so now that JC is gone I'm really hoping that Starmer can do some damage.

It's actually frightening to think they are responsible for taking the us out of the EU after they manipulated and mislead the public. We now have to contend with huge economic uncertainly and likely downturn and Brexit double whammy!

I wouldn’t report my neighbours, but if my neighbours were the ones making the guidelines to stay home except in exceptional circumstances, and then I saw those neighbours dancing to ABBA whilst partying, I think even I may take a photo and report it.