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to think Dominic Cummings should go/thread 3

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SophieB100 · 25/05/2020 18:03

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itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 08:34

But I think the biggest hole is how they made all these decisions within a few hour and had his neices offer childcare.

Was it really a "Fuck, Mary has vomited whaaaaaattttttt will we dooooooooo if we are both ill" or had it been planned?

Because the first makes it scary someone who is senior advisor cannot even contemplate the idea of looking after a 4yo even though we've all been told to stay home and the second makes it clear he never thought the rules applied to him.

The80sweregreat · 27/05/2020 08:35

Dearie me , not only has Dominic Cummings broken the rules and being defended for it but Matt Hancock told ' a man of the cloth' on a live tv news briefing that people could ( maybe) receive a refund of fines if found in breach of the rules themselves once ' his looked into it'! 😀

Peregrina · 27/05/2020 08:36

He may not be likeable but he is clever - and that's what we need now

Some one who has a whole weekend to explain why he made unnecessary trips and cobbles together hogwash about driving to test his eyesight? Please! Don't call that clever!

We do need someone clever, we do need someone with vision, but an arrogant eugenicist isn't the man. We need someone like Roosevelt in the 1930s and his New Deal, or Beveridge in the 1940s.

Extracurricularfatigue · 27/05/2020 08:37

He may not be likeable but he is clever - and that's what we need now

Is he? We know he’s good at election strategy but no proof of any other level of competence. Why are we bowing down to the myth of genius in this man? He certainly isn’t our saviour in this crisis and he has no proven knowledge or ability in economic theory.

JudyCoolibar · 27/05/2020 08:38

That's one of the things that worries me - if this is the cleverest person in the Cabinet office, what is the level of sheer idiocy in the rest of them?

Alsohuman · 27/05/2020 08:40

He may not be likeable but he is clever - and that's what we need now

Then perhaps he should get himself elected. It’s incredible that all the constant bleating about democracy following the referendum has suddenly stopped and the country’s apparently depending on a de facto prime minister for whom not a single vote has ever been cast.

Peregrina · 27/05/2020 08:44

And really, if people are now worried for his son because of the press throng outside his house, why doesn't his wife take the son and bunk off to Durham? This is surely only using her discretion and instinct and the law doesn't come into it?

LaurieMarlow · 27/05/2020 08:45

Some one who has a whole weekend to explain why he made unnecessary trips and cobbles together hogwash about driving to test his eyesight? Please! Don't call that clever!

This. I bought the myth that he’s clever (and in fairness the Leave campaign was genius) but I was open mouthed in disbelief that this is the best story he could come up with.

More holes than a swiss cheese

JudyCoolibar · 27/05/2020 08:46

Remember, this is the man who was the primary cause of the Government having to pay out £25K in a workplace bullying case when he was at the DfE. I suspect that there are some major bullying tactics being used on the poor saps of Tory MPs who have been telling us to move one.

MaxNormal · 27/05/2020 08:48

EdwinaMay I've seem little evidence of his cleverness this weekend.
And any that he may possess is certainly not going to be spent in an effort to make your life or mine better. He's balls-deep in profiteering from privatisation and government tenders.

missclimpson · 27/05/2020 08:49

The thing I don't understand was the I drove to Barnard Castle to check my eyesight bit. If he had said I drove because I still felt a bit shaky and unsure if I would be ok, then people might just have understood that. (Although most people would still think it pretty unwise to take your family on a 60 mile round trip).
As it was we had a jaw- dropping moment and an open goal to all the wonderful Specsavers jokes.
In a deeply implausable statement why add in that ludicrous detail?
Not very clever if you ask me.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 08:50

No one clever gets in a car with his wife and child and drives to test his eyesight.

chomalungma · 27/05/2020 08:55

Johnson is on a Committee meeting this afternoon - suspect this will be good viewing.

The80sweregreat · 27/05/2020 08:57

My MP is still ignoring my emails! No surprises at all but it is annoying.

JudyCoolibar · 27/05/2020 08:59

truepublica.org.uk/united-kingdom/dominic-cummings-a-cover-story-obscuring-something-far-darker/?fbclid=IwAR2GsVcqnHr2F8brVaNj89VQ9dSiqfuezfR-DBp_QVCa9zQKywGhnaTpMw4

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“The real story is the huge transfer of government assets to private companies that he is overseeing under cover of a pandemic while restructuring the Cabinet Office into his & Michael Gove’s private fiefdom. We have no insight into these contracts which did not go to tender but to Cummings’s friends & associates. Including a massive transfer of our most private, intimate NHS data. The privatisation of essential state functions is happening in real time in almost complete darkness. Cummings made absolutely clear his conditions for working in government were smashing civil service and rebuilding in his image and creating British ‘ARPA’ – an AI-driven research facility. That’s exactly what he’s doing right now in Cabinet Office with Gove his long-time co-conspirator. Sure, the hypocrisy and entitlement of Cummings is breathtaking but there’s a far darker story that it obscures and it’s why the focus must be on Johnson now and his decision to throw weight of his office – statement from No 10 – behind him.”

No wonder Gove is so desperate to defend him that he will even support the Barnard Castle story.

He has GOT to go before Johnson lets him complete this process.

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 27/05/2020 08:59

I dont get why no one asked him at the presser why his wife didn't drive. He may have tied himself in further knots.

What most annoys me is they know, we know, everyone knows its utter shite. But there's nothing we can do about it.

Notonthestairs · 27/05/2020 08:59

Bernard Jenkin has limited question about DC to 20 minutes and hand picked who can ask the questions. I suspect it will be "nothing to see here, move along".

CloudsCanLookLikeSheep · 27/05/2020 09:00

Is the liaison committee meeting televised?

Chillipeanuts · 27/05/2020 09:01

It’s ok. We can all move on.

Robert Jenrick has just given parents in the same situation, with one parent actively exhibiting coronavirus symptoms, blanket permission to drive across the country in the name of childcare. Today Programme, about 8.30. Interesting listening.

Shame the hundreds of thousands in much more fraught situations were clearly daft enough to misunderstand “stay at home, protect the NHS, save lives” mantra did just that and had the most appalling time.
Hey ho.

Wonder whether Mr. Jenrick will be able to spend more time with his own family soon ..... ?

Notonthestairs · 27/05/2020 09:01

I think you can find it on BBC Parliament.

NeedToKnow101 · 27/05/2020 09:03

How can this government be so beholden to one man? He's no a political genius and it looks like whatever his anarchist credentials once were, he certainly doesn't mind benefitting financially from lucrative perks of recent business deals. He is poison, get rid.

Everyone knows BJ is dodgy and immoral, what more could he have on him? We know he offered to get the shit kicked out of someone already, and we still voted him in. We know he gave Jennifer Acura a 'helping hand.' We know he cheated on one of his wives with his next wife, then cheated on her. We know he doesn't acknowledge one of his children. And still he got voted in! What else can DC have on him? If it's drugs, who actually gives a shit about that any more. I honestly don't get why they are protecting Cummings at all.

Janus · 27/05/2020 09:07

My MP’s ridiculous reply to my anger ...

I will keep my own counsel at least until the media frenzy is over, then I will reflect

LaurieMarlow · 27/05/2020 09:09

I honestly don't get why they are protecting Cummings at all.

There’s clearly a lot going on we don’t know about.

Chillipeanuts · 27/05/2020 09:10

Well of course, Janus he/she needs to be sure which way the winds blowing before risking their job in these uncertain times.

itsgettingweird · 27/05/2020 09:11

Janus that's a pathetic reply but..... if half are already not backing him and some are splitting this out then it means more may come out against soon. That will only be a positive.

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