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To think the current rainbow trend is NOT erasing LGBT?

125 replies

JacobReesMogadishu · 24/05/2020 20:55

Just seen a tiktok video where a lesbian is saying the pride flag belongs to lgbt and that if a child accidently draws a rainbow with 6 colours instead of 7 or someone hangs a pride flag up instead of drawing a curved rainbow then it’s stealing their culture and erasing them.

I’ve only seen one or two pride flags hung up in places where I’m fairly sure they’re signalling nhs support rather than lgbt support. Most of the time it’s actual rainbows. Can’t say I’ve counted the colours to make sure the poor kids have done all 7!

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jcyclops · 25/05/2020 00:48

Rainbows belong to everyone. The LGBT community have the circumzenithal arc. (reaches for tin hat)

Curiositykilledthecat113 · 25/05/2020 00:49

Ah great an LGBT bashing thread. Just because one lesbian somewhere says shes offended by the use of the rainbow doesn't mean we all think like this, and doesn't warrant a whole thread which will only cause hostility. It seems there's a new thing 'lgbt doesnt agree with' all the time, except most sane lgbt people dont think that way, its an excellent way to bring out the homophobes tho!

maddening · 25/05/2020 00:53

Rainbows are in the eye of the beholder

thirdfiddle · 25/05/2020 00:55

Rainbows as in Brownies
Rainbow babies
Rainbow sparkling unicorns
Pot of gold at the end if the rainbow
Noah
They never had exclusive use. Rainbows have always been a symbol of hope, of dun to follow the rain, good times to follow bad times.

Physics doesn't recognize seven.
Does physics recognise 6? I always thought a rainbow was a spectrum and delineation into colours just in our heads. Kids always find the jndigo/violet part problematic and often just go blue purple, and sometimes graphics designers too. Really not significant of anything.

greengauges · 25/05/2020 00:57

It's a rainbow. They have been around since before the human race evolved.

Nobody has the right to say they 'own' it as a symbol. It's all a load of complete and utter bollocks.

JasHarts · 25/05/2020 00:59

I have several gay friends and none of them would even think for a second about it being a case of ‘stealing’

jillowarriorqueen · 25/05/2020 01:52

I hope it is. They don't own rainbows. Glad to see it is NOW re-appropriated by everyone as a phenomenon of nature and a thousand plus year old symbol of hope, and a promise. If you want a new symbol for your cause, then don't steal one with centuries of existent symbolic meaning already and piss off millions of people.
No offense.

MrsTerryPratchett · 25/05/2020 01:53

They have been around since before the human race evolved.

Is this a tree falling in the woods philosophical question? I'm assuming people are aware rainbows existed before people. Right?

Curiositykilledthecat113 · 25/05/2020 02:01

@jillowarriorqueen LGBT people never claimed to own the rainbow, it’s a natural phenomenon. The rainbow flag is commonly used to express support for LGBT, but not always. No one is taking anything from you and where are these ‘millions of people’ who are pissed off about the LGBT using a rainbow flag? Btw sweetheart saying ‘no offense’ doesn’t make you sound less ignorant and it definitely doesn’t disguise the fact that you seem smug that the lgbt are ‘losing’ something they never ‘owned’ or claimed to own to begin with. Just say you’re homophobic and go x

SuncreamInTheWinter · 25/05/2020 03:44

I've seen the video you mean and she seems unhinged.

It makes me want to use the rainbow flag for nhs more tbh.

Made me proper snort when she was like but it's ok children are still allowed to draw CURVED rainbows. Errr right thanks love

StirlingWork · 25/05/2020 07:06

YANBU. I've never associate the 'lockdown' rainbows with the LGBT symbol

Sami39 · 25/05/2020 07:20

To be honest im getting a bit sick of rainbows full stop now...whoever they belong to! Grin

choosesoap · 25/05/2020 07:40

This is what I'd seen around quite a bit and do find a bit of a distasteful coincidence

To think the current rainbow trend is NOT erasing LGBT?
Lostvoiced · 25/05/2020 07:50

It's not a symbol for LGBT or a promise from god. It's colours in the sky. It has no meaning other than what we give it.

JacobReesMogadishu · 25/05/2020 08:02

Ah great an LGBT bashing thread

Totally isn’t. I was very clear in my 2nd post that I didn’t think the majority of the lgbt+ population felt this way.

@SuncreamInTheWinter. Yes, that’s the one. Glad the kids can still draw curved rainbows. I’m assuming non curved ones aren’t allowed?

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theseriousmoonlight · 25/05/2020 08:13

choosesoap that's a cycling jersey. The rainbow bands show that the rider has won a world championship. As far as I know, nothing to do with the NHS or LGBT although I've no idea which team it's for.

JacobReesMogadishu · 25/05/2020 08:19

It’s not an official team jersey as far as I know. From googling it last night it’s a firm who are making them so people can show support to the nhs. Some money is donated to an nhs charity.

huubdesign.com/products/support-our-nhs-better-in-than-out-rainbow-jersey?variant=31629192757331

But I agree, I think the better in than out slogan is a major oversight especially in conjunction with a rainbow. I get that it’s it to do with staying indoors but it’s thoughtless.

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theseriousmoonlight · 25/05/2020 08:22

JacobReesMogadishu ah right. I wondered why I didn't recognise the team. I guess that demonstrates that for me, a rainbow is linked to cycling!

zscaler · 25/05/2020 08:53

I’m LGBT and I don’t care. Rainbows are symbols of lots of things - babies born after a loss, religious hope, post-apartheid South Africa, and in countless cultural myths. I think that the current crisis is a nice time to see a symbol of hope, and I think it’s perfectly possible (and indeed, normal) for a symbol to have multiple meanings depending on context.

NeutrinoWrangler · 25/05/2020 09:08

Seems like a stupid thing to be upset over, so I suspect few honestly care. The few who do can go on being unhappy about it, but I wouldn't let their opinion dissuade me from doing exactly as I pleased.

The rainbow obviously doesn't belong to anyone. Also, anyone can use a rainbow-coloured "pride flag" to mean anything they like, but the joke is on them if they try, as most people will still associate it with LGBT, no matter the intention.

WineLover1234 · 25/05/2020 09:09

Fucking nonsense

RufustheLanglovingreindeer · 25/05/2020 09:12

What zscaler just said

I have several gay friends and none of them would even think for a second about it being a case of ‘stealing

Ds1 said he was pissed off that it had been stolen (he was joking)

A friend of mine and all her friends see a rainbow and connects it to her dead child

Its Quite nice that multiple people can see an actual rainbow drawn by a child and feel supported in different ways

Pleasenodont · 25/05/2020 09:14

Personally makes me think of rainbow babies. I suppose everyone attaches their own meaning to things. Ridiculous to say any symbol belongs to anyone though, not in the least a rainbow which kind of belongs to Mother Nature.

WithExtractsOfJibberish · 25/05/2020 09:17

You can't own a rainbow. It's like saying you own clouds FFS.

00100001 · 25/05/2020 09:19

Fucking hell...