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Family member pregnant aibu not to employ her (details to follow).

129 replies

Stanzasranza · 23/05/2020 09:35

I need someone to help me in my small (side) business - basically to accept deliveries/package deliveries/take to post office etc as it’s too time consuming and my time could be better spent doing other things in the business.

These deliveries/parcels are heavy - would be expected to carry heavy boxes at least 6/8 times a day as well as driving to the clients to do potential set up/collection. Not my job but similar: fixing large office printers - I’ll do the fixing while I need someone to collect/deliver/set up as I’ve spent at least 10 years perfecting my trade/experience and not in the position to pay for similar experience. I’m looking at employing someone maybe 12 hours a week split however they want to either over 2/3/4 days - in mind I had either a college/uni student to fit around their studies with a bit more overtime when I’m able to accept more work as I’m not driving over the place.

I mentioned this to a family member in passing and he’s rang me up to tell me that his girlfriend is willing to start whenever I’m ready and when I said that I wouldn’t feel comfortable letting her lift the boxes from the car to the trolley he said that I’d need to support her with the lifting (therefore I’d also need to go in the car with her) and then I might as well do it myself. He’s rang my partner today (it’s my business but he’s probably more friendly with my partner) asking him to talk to me to see what we can do to accommodate her as he doesn’t want his GF lifting but feels ‘we should keep it in the family’.

AIBU to think he’s bit of a CF?

OP posts:
HollowTalk · 23/05/2020 10:34

It's not his business so it's not his decision to keep it in the family. It's not your partner's business either, so it's not his decision who you should employ.

Stay firm, OP!

FartingInTheFence · 23/05/2020 10:36

Tell them both to go fuck off.

Whats the point in employing a liability like that if you have to detract from your job to help hers?

Aint gonna work.

LillianBland · 23/05/2020 10:36

Never employ friends or family OP, pregnant or not. In my experience, the lines end up blurred, they start resenting being treated as ‘Just’ an employee, etc.

GabsAlot · 23/05/2020 10:36

absolutely not-she wont be able to do the job so theres no point

what did your partner say

Littlemissdaredevil · 23/05/2020 10:37

Just in case they start mentioning the D word I would be tempted to advertised the role on a free website (or maybe FB). I bet she won’t apply for it then if they kick off you can say a) she didn’t apply for the role, b) you interviewed and there was a better candidate (for non-pregnancy related reasons) and c) you didn’t offer a role! CF boyfriend just stared she could start!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 23/05/2020 10:38

Its CF now, so imagine the piss they could take in the future because ‘we’re family’

This ^^
In the meantime, though, why is the family member doing all the talking rather than the GF approaching you herself?

Savingshoes · 23/05/2020 10:38

Have you had the chance top speak to the pregnant girlfriend?
Does she even know he's pimping her out when she's pregnant?
Why can't he do the job for twelve hours a week if he's so desperate to keep your business "in the family" .

theBelgranoSisters · 23/05/2020 10:39

@Stanzasranza yep hes a CF and a clown..your vacancy:your say
he/she can both get to fack.

minielise · 23/05/2020 10:39

Please can I ask what CF is?

Ginfordinner · 23/05/2020 10:40

being pregnant is not a reason to not employ her.

No, but being unable to do the job is.

2kool4skool · 23/05/2020 10:40

And when she’s goes off on mat leave or sick you’re still going to be paying her then and she’s still not going to be doing g her job. YADDDNBU

greengauges · 23/05/2020 10:41

Your family member needs to keep his nose out of your business doesn't he? And I'd have concerns for his pregnant girlfriend, I don't suppose taking on a job that involves heavy lifting and delivery driving was her idea.

Apple1029 · 23/05/2020 10:41

Yanbu. I would actually be pretty pissed off at his audacity of trying to push this on you. You need a job done, and she isnt able to do this. If she was unrelated to you, you wouldn't have a problem declining her. This is where you need to be an employer and not a friend because the lines can be crossed very easily. Just be firm and dont be pushed into explaining yourself.

lynzpynz · 23/05/2020 10:42

Tell them because of equal opportunities you are legally obliged to advertise the job and can't just hand it to family off the bat 😉.

Also as someone else mentioned if they are this willing to take the p out of you now they are only going to get worse down the line!

CalmdownJanet · 23/05/2020 10:42

I wouldn't hire her based on the fact her boyfriend rang on her behalf in the first place, if you can't call about a job then you aren't the person for the job. Plus he is a cheeky fucker so it will be a huge mistake, both valid reasons even before you get to her being pregnant

lynzpynz · 23/05/2020 10:42

@minielise CF is cheeky fucker

diddl · 23/05/2020 10:44

Because of the interference I wouldn't employ her even if she could do the job!

I can't understand the mindset of the family member trying to get his gfriend a job that she can't do!

Could she do it even if not pregnant?

Notthetoothfairy · 23/05/2020 10:45

If you cave in because CF asked your partner, then you will effectively have handed CF control of your business (and turned it into “our family business” with CF). CF will go over your head whenever he wants and you will end up paying all sorts of benefits to CF’s girlfriend whilst doing the job yourself.

Yet another NO to this idea. Agree with PPs you should not mention the pregnancy but say the position has already been filled.

SeasonallySnowyPeasant · 23/05/2020 10:45

YANBU. She can’t do the job, her partner is already causing tension ‘within the family’ = No, you will not employ her.

diddl · 23/05/2020 10:46

"I wouldn't hire her based on the fact her boyfriend rang on her behalf in the first place,"

I wonder if she even wants the job??

I can imagine an injury & claim!

sueelleker · 23/05/2020 10:48

And if she's only his GF she's not really "family" anyway.

HollowTalk · 23/05/2020 10:49

Can you imagine his involvement if you did employ her? He'd think he had a right to be involved with hours, sickness, pay - just about everything. And how could you fire her?

Get someone you don't know, OP. It's so much easier to keep those boundaries then.

LillianBland · 23/05/2020 10:52

If you cave in because CF asked your partner, then you will effectively have handed CF control of your business (and turned it into “our family business” with CF). CF will go over your head whenever he wants and you will end up paying all sorts of benefits to CF’s girlfriend whilst doing the job yourself.

This, with bells on.

Silentplikebath · 23/05/2020 10:53

YANBU

Family or not, this woman isn’t suitable for the job that is on offer because she can’t lift heavy boxes. You don’t need to say anything else apart from ‘no, I’m not going to employ your girlfriend’ (you don’t need to mention the pregnancy when you refuse. It’s your business and your choice how you run your own company)

LillianBland · 23/05/2020 10:54

By the way, OP. Your partner needs to tell the CF, if he try’s to get him to interfere, that it has nothing to do with your partner and he wouldn’t dream of getting involved in your business decisions, so he will be keeping out of it.

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