to think Dominic Cummings has to go?

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Dominic Cummings apparently travelled to his parents house while meant to be self isolating due to covid symptoms.

Given what happened with Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood, AIBU to think his position ought to be untenable?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

as Spain opens up to international tourism.

Spain yesterday -
"The prime minister was speaking after a “car demo” organised by the far-right Vox party brought thousands of people out to protest on Saturday over the government’s handling of the Covid-19 crisis."

He should go. I can't believe it's even a discussion.

Thought you were terribly weary of nit-picking derxa? I am but I may as well join in.

but it’s his parents’ home They co-own it and he stayed there quite a bit.

I must have missed that instruction, “if you stay at your second home quite a bit, you can still travel there”

I could probably drive 4+ hours without having a wee, a 4 year old less likely. BUT, having a Range Rover which drinks petrol and having a full tank of petrol needed for a 264 mile journey are slim so he would have needed to fill up locally before he left or en route. There’s no doubt in my mind he would have been to a petrol station shortly before or on his journey, when he would have already had the virus and he would have known he had a very high chance of having it.

Dominic's wife is a very old family friend of Boris, from his days on The Spectator, so I very much doubt that Boris will sack Dom.

I wonder at which point they are no longer able to get away with lies they'll state "but we were just following the science"

@itsgettingweird I'm not sure how you walk out of a property in Durham into London It is not only a good trick it's a very useful one. If they can let us all in on how it works it would save any worries about overcrowding on public transport, don't get the train do a Cummingstransport.

I think he has just gone to Downing Street to get a promotion.

Or possibly a Knighthood?

He's arrived at number 10.
Perhaps he was invited round to have a drink and a look at the bluebells in Borry's garden.

Lovely.

I think they WERE following the science.

Cummings trip was a deliberate move to see if an ANDROID could infect humans.

Got a horrible feeling they're going to go for some sort of (non) apology..

but it’s his parents’ home They co-own it and he stayed there quite a bit.

Ok but it’s not his main home. So effectively a second home. To nit pick

I'm not sure how you walk out of a property in Durham into London

Maybe it's like cluedo where you can go through the secret passageway? Only just for really important people obviously.

Shortsally

If you couldn't develop antibodies, no-one could recover at all. That is how the immune system works against viruses. The only question is how long the antibodies last. At the moment, the pessimistic guess is that it might only last six months. It's been less than six months since he had it, and he was clinically tested for coronavirus at the time. We know it wasn't flu.

Nobody has been deliberately reinfected with the virus to test immunity, but a pair of rhesus macaque monkeys have.

They were infected twice, once to build up an immune response and then a second time three weeks later. Those very limited experiments showed theydid not develop symptoms againafter such a quick reinfection.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52446965?utm_source=dlvr.it&

Think that ships sailed flies the time for that was yesterday. The time was before they tried to defend it and then call us all pleas for following the rules and not doing what we thought best because we just don't love our kids or spouses enough.

I hope he's gone into No10. Will be dismissed and out the back.
The BJ actually stands in front of his nation tonight, apologises and leads the press conference and the country.

But then I always have been a never ending optimist

Dom will have popped into Downing Street to tell Boris what to think.

P.S. Sally

Imagine if I had started a thread in March saying, "we're coming down with what might be Coronavirus. My lungs hurt and I'm really worried we might become too sick to look after the children. Can we drive up to DH's sister in Durham now so that our kids are easy for her to get to if we become really really ill?"

Would you have been on my side if I had posted that?

I'm afraid we don't know if we build up anti bodies or not or how useful they are.

The bottom line is, has this man strayed from guidelines.
Is seeking help for small dc with one dp showing symptoms ok or not?

I'd say yes, it's fine.

Visiting your lover however whether you have had it or not, being science officer...

No.

Even though other family were nearby to provide aid, @shortsally?

Pot hole personally yes.

Like I keep saying I think basic common sense needs to come into play.

Eg people serving ice cream but wearing gloves whilst also handling change.... No common sense! People eating said ice creams... No commonsense

People wearing a flimsy mask all day, and in the car alone... No common sense!

People wearing a mask in a shop, removing it outside, airing it in sun light or washing it, common sense!!

They are selling antibody testing kits in Superdrug. We can even identify the specific antibodies against this strain of coronavirus, as well as being able to deduce that they exist from everything we have learnt about viruses over the last century.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/24/test-antibody-uk-coronavirus-covid-19-superdrug-buy/

Imagine if I had started a thread in March saying, "we're coming down with what might be Coronavirus. My lungs hurt and I'm really worried we might become too sick to look after the children. Can we drive up to DH's sister in Durham now so that our kids are easy for her to get to if we become really really ill?"

Would you have defended me?

Sharona... We don't know their circs or relationship.
Family doesn't necessarily translate to, capable of looking after your child or you..

Oh, cross-post. You would have been fine with me infecting any police officer who was unfortunate enough to randomly stop us, anyone at a services, and any staff at the local hospital (in what was a mostly unaffected area) if we had become sick enough to need hospitalisation.

Good to know.

One heck of a video from Labour

twitter.com/UKLabour/status/1264532041380638725