to think Dominic Cummings has to go?

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Dominic Cummings apparently travelled to his parents house while meant to be self isolating due to covid symptoms.

Given what happened with Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood, AIBU to think his position ought to be untenable?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

She also certainly exaggerated about leaving lockdown into what was the uncertainty of lockdown London. I'm not sure how you walk out of a property in Durham into London

She certainly implied they were in London but without actually saying it!

I can’t see her in that footage. I mean a different woman, will try and dig out.

I'm sure somewhere and I'm sure someone had posted that on 28th March DS gave a statement that DC was isolating with covid.

Initially they said he travelled on 31/3.

Then this morning GS said it may have been 27th or 28th - he doesn't know.

I can’t see her in that footage. I mean a different woman, will try and dig out. You must mean yesterday's footage.

The Telegraph was being a "campaigning newspaper" when it went after Neil Ferguson. The whole point was to discredit the lockdown by discrediting its "architect", so we can start the economy going again, cheers cheers! Regardless of the Telegraph's motives, the allegations were still true and Ferguson still deserved to land in the shit.

Cecily p, you may bat away and diminish the other twos risks and reasons but I personally feel they set a bad example.

Dc reasons were to me initially far more reasonable and plausible, without risking transmission at services or using the 4 year old as care of course.

Of course that's more reasonable than science man fancying sex with his married lover risking transmission and to her family and fancying a break in your second home!

"We emerged from quarantine into a post apocalyptic world. The Houses of Parliament had crumbled and the north bank of the Thames was completely overgrown..."

The whole approach has been an utter mess. But I'm not sure how much of that mess I lay at the doors of the gov or the medical '' experts '' whose sole expertise it is to advise.

If the mess isn't the fault of those running the country or those advising them on dealing with the virus who's fault is it then?? Peppa pig's??

Otherwise I think the whole of lockdown is in jeopardy

Lockdown has had it now, no one will take the Govt message seriously now, even if he goes, the damage has been done.

merrymouse you're making me larf

I think people are far to sensible actually jas than to chuck the message of lock down away because one man went north.

Over all the UK public has adhered to lock down rules, very well and to a decentralised enough to degree to play out in the figures we get every day.

That's with all the mis understanding and mis information.

Science man had actually had it and recovered, for definite! He couldn't pass it on.

Imagine if I had started a thread in March saying, "we're coming down with what might be Coronavirus. My lungs hurt and I'm really worried we might become too sick to look after the children. Can we drive up to DH's sister in Durham now so that our kids are easy for her to get to if we become really really ill?"

I would have been crucified.

Sensible or cognisant that unlike DC, I probably will get a fine if I travel 270 miles to stay with family?

Dc reasons were to me initially far more reasonable and plausible, without risking transmission at services or using the 4 year old as care of course. I agree and understand why he did what he did. Doesn't mean he shouldn't be sacked. I can understand him going to Durham as him going home. Back to the farm.

"We emerged from quarantine into a post apocalyptic world.The Houses of Parliament had crumbled and the north bank of the Thames was completely overgrown..."

Yes, she misled her readers - although if they travelled back to London in the dark, and emerged from their house the following morning in daylight hours, the same poetic licence could be used.

Well, if the medical experts who advised the gov were wrong then, them. I'd blame them.

This is quite specific stuff... Imagine Boris over riding someone whose a virus expert

Cecily p, you may bat away and diminish the other twos risks and reasons but I personally feel they set a bad example

Yes they did, they deserved to go and were dismissed pretty swiftly. What DC did was worse and far from being dismissed, he is being defended by ministers and in doing so they are making a mockery of lockdown.

Did anyone see channel 4 news last night? I didn’t catch the name of the MP defending DC but I could scarcely believe what I was hearing.

I can understand him going to Durham as him going home

Sorry to flog a dead horse, but it’s his parents’ home. I realise you know this, but there has been such rightful condemnation of people going to their second homes, he shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.

Well, if the medical experts who advised the gov were wrong then, them. I'd blame them

Well since the SAGE committee includes a certain Dominic Cummings that means he's to blame for the mess?

In fact, 'the mess' is clearly the fault of gov dithering, lying, failing to prepare, failing to take the advice given, failing to ensure testing and supplies of PPE etc etc

I think people are far to sensible actually jas than to chuck the message of lock down away because one man went north

I think after 9 weeks people are fed up, europe is genuinely coming out of lockdown, we are still very much in it, with high death/infection rates especially with a 14 day quarantine period for travellers returning home, so finishing off the travel industry and as Spain opens up to international tourism.

People are looking at the support and the excuses for Cummings and making up their own minds and i suspect that this weekend, many will go and visit their parents etc.

Pot hole.

Can you confirm that once having had covid you can't pass it on or be re infected and whether science man had an anti body test please.

As far as I am sure aware there is no evidence to suggest having had covid gives immunity.
We don't know what level of covid infection gives immunity if at all. We don't know if you do get some level of immunity how much that protects you or for how long.
I thought this grey area was one reason we are stuck in covid gridlock?

but it’s his parents’ home They co-own it and he stayed there quite a bit.

Imagine Boris over riding someone whose a virus expert

That has put a hideous image in my head..

They co-own it and he stayed there quite a bit

Thought you were terribly weary of nit-picking derxa?

Jas, what nonsense.

I really don't feel any people other than a tiny monitory would be that silly.

As I mentioned earlier if I had cut all my risks of transmission to the bone and my elderly parent also did, after waiting 14 days I would visit them.

If I'm in and out of shops, don't wash shopping being delivered or purchased, out buying ice creams then I am risking picking up covid and passing it on.

Jas your implying people, the majority are like sheep.
I disagree, I have far more faith un common sense