to think Dominic Cummings has to go?

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Dominic Cummings apparently travelled to his parents house while meant to be self isolating due to covid symptoms.

Given what happened with Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood, AIBU to think his position ought to be untenable?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

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I know how ill coronavirus makes you. It was entirely right for Dom Cummings to find childcare for his toddler, when both he and his wife were getting ill.

Meh, he could have driven and self isolated there. We don't know the circumstances, maybe it was better for him to self isolate there?

It is against the rules to leave your home when anyone in your household has symptoms. And there’s no way he drove that journey without stopping with a toddler in the car.

What exactly does he have on the government that he can get away with this when others have had to go for lesser breaches

@SudokuBook entirely possible he did drive without stopping, you don't know all the details. We will most likely never know all the details.

On every ad break we are being told not to leave the house if someone has symptoms of Covid.

entirely possible he did drive without stopping, you don't know all the details. We will most likely never know all the details.

We were told quite clearly that driving was not on - except for essential travel. One of the reasons was potentially spreading the disease and also risking an accident.

I prefer Cummings, whilst he must exist, in clear sight of the press. If he can do this whilst off grid, what else do you think he might do!

Even if he didn’t stop, which is quite unlikely with a small child, he broke the rules. The government are gaslighting the population if they are saying he didn’t. The rules clearly state if you have to self isolate because someone in your house has symptoms that you must not leave your home for any reason.

And which nanny is going to come into a house with someone with covid? It has to be family for this kind of situation.

And which nanny is going to come into a house with someone with covid? It has to be family for this kind of situation

So basically the Government have said it's ok to travel across the country if 1 of you is sick and you have a child?

We were told not to leave the house if we had symptoms. That is it.

That is what they’ve said by the looks of it, that if you expect both parents to be shortly incapacitated then those are reasonable grounds for an exception.

The advice clearly wasn’t sufficiently detailed as so many people wouldn’t have flouted it.

It has to be family for this kind of situation.

Utter nonsense.

That is what they’ve said by the looks of it, that if you expect both parents to be shortly incapacitated then those are reasonable grounds for an except

You'd have thought that would be clear in the guidelines given how many people have children.

I agree it should have been clearer in the guidelines.

If I contract covid or show.symptoms, I will self isolate for 7 days. My Dh and ds (2) will have to isolate for 14 days, unless they show symptoms then it will be 7 days from the start of symptoms: as dh and i did when ds had a temperature at the beginning of lock down.

Of all the unclear dealing of the situation by the government, this part has always been clear.

Cummings has acted selfishly, hypocritically and dangerously. He's a disgrace and his dealing of the fall out is arrogant and childish. "Who cares what you guys think" indeed.

March 28 & 29: Mr Cummings develops symptoms of the disease over the weekend, Downing Street confirms, with his wife stating saying he felt 'weird'. (His wife also wrote they both herself and her husband were struggling to breathe in an article).

He reportedly collapsed before spending ten days bedridden with a high fever, spasms and breathlessness.

March 31: Cummings was in Durham, with police confirming they visited an individual who had travelled to the city from London to self-isolate.

April 5: Mr Cummings is allegedly spotted by a witness at the grounds of his parents' home near Durham at 5.45pm with a child believed to be his son.

So he and his wife both had symptoms and he was too ill to look after his child but he was able to drive over 260 miles (and presumably visited a petrol station and used a public toilet). He then left his child with his elderly parents.

We were told not to leave the house if we had symptoms. That is it.

Or if anyone else in the house had them. So it’s no better that they are now saying it was his wife who was ill.

He should have done what everyone else has to do who gets ill with kids, just fucking get on with it.

Shame they can’t nail us in and daub a plague sign on the outside really.

It was entirely right for Dom Cummings to find childcare for his toddler, when both he and his wife were getting ill.

So Matt, why didn't you make that clear at the time? Wouldn't it have been useful to explain that this was an exception? Don't you think that would have been helpful for other families? Because now it seems as though you are retrospectively making an exception for one person.

The reason I asked what anyone in the situation should do is because it highlights that DC either knew he was breaking lockdown rules or that the rules themselves weren’t clear enough for the general public to understand. In either case Cummings or his government is at fault.
I personally think that if both parents are too ill to look after their own child then one or both should surely be in hospital.

How likely is it they were both totally incapacitated from what we are told is a mild illness for most people to the extent they couldn’t look after their child? They didn’t require hospital treatment did they. Plus he can’t have been that ill to have driven all that way. I remember the time my husband I both had norovirus when our kids were baby/toddler and we were literally crawling on our hands and knees, that is when we weren’t going like the clappers at both ends. It was horrific but we had to suck it up.

He absolutely does need to go

ffs, that's all of them now; Hancock, Raab, Sunak, Patel, Gove; none of them think that Cummins should have followed the government guidelines.

absofuckinglutely unbelievable.

I see Boris' cabinet has received a memo telling them to rally round and act as Cumming's apologists.

I wonder if Boris wrote it?

Or Cummings?