to think Dominic Cummings has to go?

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Dominic Cummings apparently travelled to his parents house while meant to be self isolating due to covid symptoms.

Given what happened with Neil Ferguson and Catherine Calderwood, AIBU to think his position ought to be untenable?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/22/dominic-cummings-durham-trip-coronavirus-lockdown

PerkingFaintly No. Sir John contracted it entirely separately. But Cummings' parents must be of a similar age, and I think it hammers home that Dominic shouldn't have been looking to them for childcare help. I think Sir John is the brother of Cummings' mother?

If they were too sick to look after their kid they were too sick to drive. I wonder what the law says about driving when you’re really sick? Comes a point when You’re not properly in charge Of your vehicle.

I have posted about this on another thread and I will post here because I am so angry.

If Cummings wanted to look after his family, he would have stayed in his primary residence and cared for them, as any normal family would do.

Instead he travelled across the country so he could outsource the caring responsibilities to other family members.

My husband is now u employed, I have not seen my Dad in almost three months and almost daily my DS talks about playing in grandpa's garden, but we follow the rules.

Cancer treatment has been stopped, parents haven't been able to attend their child's funeral and people generally are trying so hard to do the right thing in awful circumstances.

But the rules dont apply to Cummings and Boris agrees. Personally, I hope they both go.

I couldn't go to a funeral of a loved one. People died without family by their bedside.

His actions are inexcusable.

How many toilet breaks were needed on a long car journey with a young child.....

I've been trying to see who has commented. The usual suspects have tweeted almost word for word defensive statements.

I can't see anything from Matt Hancock yet

If they thought it was truly ok, they wouldn’t have hidden it in the article she wrote and comments both have made to media.

They knew it was wrong and to attempt to pass it off as perfectly acceptable now is disgusting.

I also wonder why is this being released now... what is being hidden?

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How can we be sure less than 1/5 broke rules when they were ill? We have no data for this and the guidance was silent on this exact scenario.

So one was vomiting and the other was shaking with a temp and shallow breathing?

Which one of them drove up the A1?

Good job they didn’t cause an accident as neither sound in a fit state to drive?

The defensive, supportive tweets etc from Gove, Sunak etc, are appalling. How many other people must surely have known that he was in Durham. I also find it surprising that it's taken till now for this news to come out.

We have no data for this and the guidance was silent on this exact scenario

The guidelines said:

If someone is ill, then they need to self isolate
If someone is ill in a household, then they need to self isolate in that household.

So if she was ill first, then he should have been fine - and she should have self isolated in that household.

Or they were both ill - which then begs the question - why drive 250 miles up the A1 and M1 to Durham. And how do you drive if you are ill?

The timing of this story is really interesting. It was reported on 31 March but only covered now. Looking at the Times, I think the newspapers are getting the general population prepared for lockdown to end or be loosened up.

Can we complain to a press regulator about Laura Kuennsberg? Or do you have to be personally impacted by a story to be able to complain?

He knows the location of many many skeletons and is 100% the kind of man who would take others with him if he goes down
@SquishySquirmy, you're right there, and it would be quite a thrill to watch.
But he won't go, I'm almost sure of it; this government has no accountability and gives no fucks. Those of us who didn't vote for them in December did try to warn those who did.
The worst thing is that senior cabinet members would have known about Cumming's trip to the north when they hounded out Ferguson just a couple of weeks ago, for visiting his girlfriend.

Just read Keir Starmer's kids are currently at school, despite Labour Party being against schools reopening on 1 June.

If they're currently at school, it's because he and his wife are classed as key workers.

Re. the goblin. Here are some possible “reasons”

Boris Johnson yesterday

We have no data for this and the guidance was silent on this exact scenario

The guidance was clearer on infected people than any other group. It was isolate at home. Not "isolate at home unless you fancy a long roadtrip to family despite being able to provide for your child in situ".

Amid calls for his resignation after he was found to have travelled 264 miles across the country days after lockdown was imposed with his wife and child while symptomatic, Dominic Cummings has been snapped outside his home gesturing to members of the media to observe social distancing guidelines. Yes, really.

From the Guardian

The guidance doesn’t specifically cover what to do if you are both sick and have young kids. In fact there was a mumsnet thread asking what the options were a few weeks back.

Hi uncle died of it in mid April. I wonder if they had contact. He is the definition of a psychopath and should never have been let anywhere near these decisions that effect people’s risk of death. Of course he should go but they should never have been voted in in the first place if we care one jot about people. But there you go. It seems a large number of people don’t care about other human beings and were happy to vote in a lying, scheming, incompetent psychopath and his psychopathic friends and now for the next half century we will reap what we sowed. 😔

Oh and he could have employed a carer/nanny. A friend lives in London and has the money to. There are numerous agencies and various measures they put in place to minimise risk.

Too many people rushed to judgement on this one, because they hate DC. I'm no fan, but when I saw this morning's headline I decided to wait for more facts to be published. As it currently stands I don't think he did anything wrong. He was well enough to drive at the time, but knew there was a high risk of contracting the virus (and did next day). He isolated when he got there. His sister (not his parents) was on standby to help with shopping and childcare. Better that than social services if he had nobody in London to care for his child. Only question left open for me is whether he used services on the way up, but I had enough woodland wee-stops when I was 4 to know that service stations aren't the only option, and the one-way journey is easily do-able on one tank of petrol.

I'd have done the same in that position, and it can be regarded as essential travel.

His Uncle! 🙄