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Neighbour problem with wild birds

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Chocolate50 · 21/05/2020 08:09

We have nesting wild birds in our garden every year. My neighbour who we've been fairly friendly with for a number of years with no real issues (although has sometimes been a little selfish at times but I've let this go as don't want to create problems) asked me if I saw any abandoned eggs (sometimes happens) if she could have them so she could hatch them (I think her son was interested). I've given her a couple once I'm sure that the mother wasn't coming back.

Anyway there's a nest in our garden, with bird coming & going, but last week my neighbour says that there was another animal attacking this nest & she's taken all of the eggs - not sure how she knew this because she can't see the nest from her house. At this point I go outside to see mother bird really distressed looking for her eggs. So I knock on the neighbours door & ask if I can put the eggs back. No she tells me that the mother wouldn't accept them, I eventually persuade her to give them back as I'm worried about the mother bird & so she gives them all back (or I thought she did). I put the eggs on nest, bird sits on them & all is good.
However I am by this point annoyed that my neighbour has gone into my garden & without bothering to knock, has taken these eggs from this nest, however had made it clear we wanted them returned & she seemed to comply.

But then another turn. She sends me a message saying should she put 'the other eggs back too as she's not sure if she actually wants to hatch all of these birds' (bare in mind I thought that all of the eggs had been returned). I say yes put them back. Then I get a message with a picture of a newborn bird saying 'too late they're hatching'. This picture shows at least 6 eggs. I'm livid by this point. I ask her why she kept them & that they should be with the mother & that we don't believe in taking eggs out of nests with no good reason anyway - at the point that the mother returned that's when they needed to all go back & that the nest was in our fucking garden anyway. You get the drift.
I get a half hearted apology where she refuses to give hatched bird back to mother (I am certain that the mother bird would've accepted it) & saying that there's nothing she can do. I say well give them back now before the rest hatch. So I knock again on the door & ask for eggs back & say I'm going to phone wildlife help for advice. She reluctantly gives them (son looking disappointed in background me feeling like an ogre), I put them nest the nest mother takes them straight away & all is good again.
However I've now discovered that she kept at least 3 eggs. Her reasoning is that some are lost to predators in the wild, this totally goes against our ethics which are that the best place for these birds is with mother in wild & our role is to support but not interfere in this way. At the point that the mother bird returned & looked distressed was when they should've all gone back. I think my neighbour has been really selfish to do this & think she only wanted to bring up the birds herself for her own reasons, nothing to do with predators. My opinion has changed completely now about her & she had the opportunity to put things right & didn't.

I don't want to sound over dramatic but I'm actually feeling really violated - she was obviously watching the nest (I know she's used webcams on nests in her garden before now & the thought has crossed my mind), and am really angry that she came in, took these eggs, refused to return them, then only returned some & has really offended my ethical beliefs by objectifying these wild animals (I hear her son playing with these birds in their garden). I'm seriously pissed off.
I tried to explain this to her but she clearly thinks I'm over reacting & says things like 'its the same outcome, we'll raise them & let them go, this is what would've happened anyway except the mother would be raising them instead of us'.

So my dilemma is now I'm not able to trust my neighbour, do I try to communicate about this any longer or should I leave it. I'm aware that I could report her as I don't think what she's done is legal but it's done now. I just don't want it happening again, it's really stressed me out!

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bestbefore · 21/05/2020 09:05

@chocolate50 - what country are you in?

Allnamesaregone · 21/05/2020 09:06

Unfortunately you giving the the abandoned eggs in the first place has set a thing in her mind that’s its ok to do under any circumstances. Both of you need to leave all wild eggs alone. What she’s doing is illegal.

Chocolate50 · 21/05/2020 09:06

Thank you for all helpful replies, I will speak to the wildlife people. I just wanted to get another opinion & it's pretty clear on the opinion! Thank you for responses especially with neighbour relationship it's hard to put it behind am feeling so angry about it

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RozHuntleysStump · 21/05/2020 09:06

I've loads of nesting birds in my garden. I've never felt the need to interfere with anything. ffs.. Everybody needs to leave well alone!!

Chocolate50 · 21/05/2020 09:07

@bestbefore UK x

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WhenItIsOver · 21/05/2020 09:07

So, put the abandoned eggs in the nest with the others then, don't give them to the nutter.

Mintjulia · 21/05/2020 09:10

Report her. What she did is illegal and if she doesn’t have the sense to teach her son that, then someone needs to.

Chocolate50 · 21/05/2020 09:10

@Allnamesaregone yes you're right I hadn't thought about that. The one I gave her was on the greenhouse floor though which after a few days couldn't be left there! I think you're right though sent the wrong signal. The most we would do is make sure mother bird was safe - they nest was right by the road behind our car (they oddly nest everywhere). All hatched though. Now we can move car!

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pictish · 21/05/2020 09:16

I think you need to be explicit with her and quite simply tell her to stay out of your garden. If she wants eggs so badly she can find them somewhere else. You can’t stop her from being a fud to birds but you can stop her from entering your property to do so. Be clear that you do not want her meddling with nesting birds in your garden.

CandyLeBonBon · 21/05/2020 09:17

What a weird thread!

Chocolate50 · 21/05/2020 09:20

@CandyLeBonBon I'm starting to think I've been in lockdown too long! It is really weird & I feel weird writing it but wanted an opinion.

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Vamoosh · 21/05/2020 09:21

I am utterly disgusted at this stupid woman. I hope you have reported this illegal activity to the relevant authorities.

Chocolate50 · 21/05/2020 09:26

@WhenItIsOver wild ducks - not sure it's wise to put another ducks egg in a different nest but the one I found was in the middle of our greenhouse floor weeks ago they seem to lay the odd one leave them & go make a proper nest. We couldn't leave it on the floor of the greenhouse after a few days gave to neighbour & didn't know that there was a nest in garden anyway at that point. But it's right I think I gave her the wrong impression somehow by doing this she thought it was ok to just take eggs (or didn't care). But we would never actually take an egg out of a nest, when I say abandoned I mean abandoned!

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antipodalpizza · 21/05/2020 09:33

What on earth gives you the right to give her some the eggs?
They weren't yours to give! You are both as bad as each other. We have nests in our garden and it's a priviledge not something for us to fuck about with.

Fluffycloudland77 · 21/05/2020 09:34

You’re both weird as fuck. What is the matter with you?.

icansmellburningleaves · 21/05/2020 09:34

Neither of you should have gone anywhere near the nest, or touched the eggs. The pair of you need reporting to the RSPCA.

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 21/05/2020 09:35

No YANBU in any way

What she is doing is batshit and, more to the point. bloody well cruel .

WhentheRabbitsWentWild · 21/05/2020 09:36

Also though OP you yourself have no business letting her have some eggs , that belong to mother bird, in the first place . Wtf is that weirdness?

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 21/05/2020 09:36

i dont know why you let her take them in the first place?

CrowdedHouseinQuarantine · 21/05/2020 09:38

oh i have reread op
you gave an inch and she took a mile,
how horrible of your neighbour op.

LEELULUMPKIN · 21/05/2020 09:38

Why on earth did you allow her to have the eggs? Talk about bloody stupid.

They were never yours to give away and what you have both done is illegal.

I hope the pair of you get prosecuted

strawberry2017 · 21/05/2020 09:39

You need to send her a letter, email or text basically saying under no circumstances are you to enter our garden again without my permission first.
You need to put locks on your gate and a sign up saying trespassers will be prosecuted and you need to report her she's a selfish bitch, a horrible person taking eggs from a mother duck.

Weallhavevalidopinions · 21/05/2020 09:42

I thought it was illegal to disturb nesting birds. Tell her it is and she could get reported for doing this and to never do it again.

Make sure she cannot access the nesting sites again. Don't let her have any chicks again.

minisoksmakehardwork · 21/05/2020 09:46

I don't think you have helped yourself by giving her eggs from an apparently abandoned nest. But your neighbour is bonkers.

You need to set a clear boundary from now on that you won't be giving her any 'abandoned' eggs and that her coming into your garden is to be considered trespassing. Interfering with a birds nest is considered an offence under the wildlife and countryside act and the protection of birds act.

tbh I would be concerned that by giving her eggs you could be seen as complicit in her actions.

UnfinishedSymphon · 21/05/2020 09:48

You gave her the fucking eggs in the first place, I cannot actually believe you would do something so abhorrent. Just because they are in your garden they are not your property, leave them the fuck alone.

From your first post I've given her a couple once I'm sure that the mother wasn't coming back

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