To think that people seem to have forgotten that we are human beings

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Obviously the lockdown was necessary to slow the virus.

But it seems that now people have lost all perspective and have lost all sense of humanity. Someone says they’re missing their partner,and the response is that they’re just going to have to live with it because “people are dying.”

Someone hasn’t seen their family because they live some way away and are told that they should be grateful they’re not in ICU.

Someone does see their family briefly and they’re told that they’re essentially killing people.

Today I saw a recommendation from someone that all long distance travel should be banned for the foreseeable,but this fails to take into account the families that have been separated by this and the impact it has on their wellbeing’s and relationships.

This isn’t about the doomsayers, we’ve had quite enough threads on those.

But it does seem that people seem to expect that all feelings and emotions should be put aside indefinitely and that you’re somehow unreasonable to want to live any semblance of a human life again.

I suppose it also depends on how helpful your family are. I know when my in-laws can see us again they will take my toddler for half a day so I can read a book or watch a film DH isn't fussed about or bake a cake.

I have two painful autoimmune conditions, so on average, my days are a bit difficult. But my husband always likes to remind me (some days it’s easier to remember, some days I grumble) that tragedy is personal. I could be a complete bitch and every time anyone mentions any problem they have, I could tell them how lucky they should consider themselves because my health problems and pain are so much worse. OR I can and do try to have some compassion and realize, whatever is hurting them, is still really hurting them. I’ve had friends where the maximum amount of pain they could handle in a day was maybe the equivalent of a paper cut, and they were complaining about the paper cut, on a day when I was almost bedbound with pain, BUT what was happening to me didn’t make their pain less real or valid. So... you can tell someone you think their personal tragedy doesn’t matter, but it won’t make you bigger or stronger or happier or more important in life.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: absolutely no one wins when you decide to play top trumps about personal hurts. You’ll just end up with no friends, because people need each other. With the lockdown and isolation, everyone has different weak points and is dealing with it differently, so to dismiss any struggles because they’re not “death throes” just seems sad and preposterous. And those who are STILL doing it in this thread? I just don’t know what you think you’re proving.

It’s extraordinary how all that ‘be kind’ stuff just evaporated, isn’t it? How do you think it’s helpful to someone struggling with their mental health to tell them to ‘suck it up’, or to remind them that it was harder during the war?

People often do the whole: 'this is a small problem with everything that happening.'

As though feelings are limited and we can't be upset about multiple things.

It really just means that they don't care about your feelings.

Always though Kourtney Kardashian saying the 'people are dying, Kim' thing when she'd lost a £75k earring in the ocean was fucking unfair. I'd cry too. It's £75k!

my brain controls my choices, not my emotions.

😂 Oh really, so what exactly controls your emotions then?

But an individuals personal history has no bearing on spread, on a population level.
No but those individuals deserve an individual moment of compassion. Very few posts of people struggling are about how they're breaking the rules. If they were breaking the rules they probably wouldn't be struggling. Telling people who are struggling "well people living in war would rather live your life" doesn't help. "at least you're not dead".l isn't consolation to someone who is actively suicidal or who's close family member has died.
Thats Empathy 101,it should be xplaining

Shouldn't need

Bloody kids

Agree OP.
I think some have forgotten that people die of other things too; and that there are studies showing the effect of loneliness, lack of mobility and lack of vitamin D on the mental and physical health of the elderly - who form the majority of those who die of or with Covid - All things that lockdown is making worse.
The unkindness, lack of critical thinking, lack of nuance, tribalism etc is worse than during Brexit. I don't know how society will recover but I'm pretty sure that screaming 'everyone will die' at anyone who asks whether there is any hope of an education for their children, or genuine care for their elderly relatives (not just keeping them alive longer, genuine care over quality of life), or that jobs will not disappear or that anyone will start to care about the effects of poverty and the forgotten non-Covid illnesses... I don't think that is going to help. Aside from the fact of course that everyone won't die (of Covid - of course we all have to die of something)

What quality of life do you think people in care homes have had lately pixie? Thinking of the level of fear as well as doctors not wanting to visit them as well as the physical suffering. Is there an absence of critical thinking skills in thinking it's showing genuine care to get on top of a virus that will see them indefinitely isolated if it's present in communities?