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To wonder where Boris Johnson is?

228 replies

littleblackdress04 · 20/05/2020 06:26

He’s never at the daily briefings and given that we are living through the greatest crisis in living memory, he should be there. The list of people at these briefings gets more bizarre every day.

He’s the prime minister and he’s pretty absent at the moment meanwhile the death count grows. 35,000 people - it’s truly devastating especially when you think that if there is a terrorist incident and even one person dies, it makes the headlines for days.

And before anyone says he’s on paternity leave, he’s a notoriously absent father who has many other kids and if that was anyone else on here, would get slated for not fulfilling his parental duties.

Aibu to think he’s shirking his responsibilities as PM- he should be there every day being accountable but he’s not- he’s sending in his minions. It’s truly appalling.

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Medievalist · 20/05/2020 07:59

PMQ is FAR more interesting and informative than the daily briefings. And Keir is a million times better at holding Boris to account than members of the press or public. His forensic questioning technique is a joy to behold and he never lets Boris off the hook.

BGD2012 · 20/05/2020 08:02

He has been kept away from scrutiny since before the election. Hardly did any interviews, shut down parliament etc. He is exposed at PMQ as he doesn't have his fan club with him and is put on the spot. The Tories will spin some more stories to take the heat off him today. He had an easy run with Corbyn.

yoloPenguinsEatfish · 20/05/2020 08:03

Boris has form for going AWOL when he feels like it. West Indies over Christmas, a fortnight at Chequers a few weeks later, he doesnt seem to think that being PM is a full time job. Or, he doesnt seem to think at all.

Clutterbugsmum · 20/05/2020 08:03

@pussycatinboots

He's on stage 4 of Dither, Delay, Panic, Run Away Grin.

It's not a Labour or a Conservative question it's the fact the as the leader of Parliament, and of this country he should be visible, yes defer to the expects but he should not be hiding.

And no I don't believe he is dealing with Brexit as the civil servants and ministers with be brokering any deals and dealing with any day to day related to it.

Helmetbymidnight · 20/05/2020 08:03

put a sock in it.

put a sock in it yourself.

Medievalist · 20/05/2020 08:05

*put a sock in it.

put a sock in it yourself.*

And on that note .....

Sallycinammonbangsthedruminthe · 20/05/2020 08:07

Just a point to note we will be wondering where the lot of them are next week and the week after as they have voted for theirreessof parliamennt...yep right in the middle of this crisis...now I willstand toe to toe with anyone and defend my tory voting but this is a step too far even for me.I am disgusted by this.

Helmetbymidnight · 20/05/2020 08:08
Grin
workercovid · 20/05/2020 08:09

Ah! I thought this very thought last night but decided kindly that maybe because I was avoiding the news other than catching up once a day I was missing him. Clearly not!
Glad I didn't vote for him I would be furious at his lack of leadership of I had. Fortunately I knew he was a Bozo before shame he is the dead weight we are lumbered with for this Crisis.
Bet he increased our death rate, leads us out in a now deal in December and then abandons ship in Jan to ride high on his millions whilst the rest of us suffer.
Only hope now is for the Tory party to grow some balls and get rid of him. Only they won't

MarieQueenofScots · 20/05/2020 08:17

put a sock in it

I sometimes wonder if people understand how Internet forums work...

AvalancheKit · 20/05/2020 08:17

The deaths would be no lower if Corbyn were in power. Or Lib Deb, or the Greens for that matter.

LagunaBubbles · 20/05/2020 08:17

Because when he does appear and speak, it has impact. If he attended the daily briefings, regularly that impact would wear off

The only impact he has on me is he looks hungover.

Cantgowrongwithstripedcurtains · 20/05/2020 08:18

Sally i too am surprised that parliament is having a two week recess at this point. Then again, there was very little comment about the recess of a month shortly after 23 march (i think a couple of parliamentarians commented adversely but that was it). I wonder if anyone will propose that it should sit through the summer.

JudyCoolibar · 20/05/2020 08:19

put a sock in it yourself.

Intellectual argument of the day ...

littleblackdress04 · 20/05/2020 08:22

@AvalancheKit but they aren’t in power so it’s irrelevant. The tories have catastrophically fucked this up. They had plenty of time to prepare but didn’t, locked down too late, PPE had been inadequate at best and tens of thousands have died.

It’s got nothing to do with the other parties - the tories have a large majority as they crowed about after the election and this means that it sits on them entirely.

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Bluebellpainting · 20/05/2020 08:25

put a sock in it

Undermines whole statement by finishing with this. Not going to individually counter each of your arguments as seems little point.

littleblackdress04 · 20/05/2020 08:25

@JinglingHellsBells are you seriously trying to blame the NHS for being late procuring from the Private sector. There are so many things wrong with that statement it’s hard to know where to start to be honest.

But they wouldn’t HAVE to procure from private companies if the NHS was properly resourced and hadn’t suffered a decade of underfunding.

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Helmetbymidnight · 20/05/2020 08:25

put a sock in it yourself.

Intellectual argument of the day ...

woah, im not going to try an intellectual arguement with someone who - on a discussion site- tells posters who are making legitimate criticisms pf the pm to "put a sock on it"

Helmetbymidnight · 20/05/2020 08:26

*in it

AvalancheKit · 20/05/2020 08:27

Fair enough OP. But it would not be right for him to be at every briefing - others are accountable also - but not for the past for the future. Such as jobs, transport, health care, taxation. This is why there must be a range of heads coming to the briefing. You really do not want Boris turning up every day.

As an aside, I strongly suspect he has not properly recovered from the virus. Many people take ages to recover. Some get minor strokes and other serious conditions. He looks bloody ill to me. That raises other questions of course.

babybythesea · 20/05/2020 08:38

Jinglinghellsbells.
I can’t lay the blame for everything solely at the feet of the gvt, but there’s a lot I can blame them for.

Putting Dominic Cummings onto the board to the scientific advisory group and then saying you are listening to the advice of the scientists - one of the members was not a scientist and was on it to push the direction of the discussions. If that wasn’t his job, to have politics influence the science, why was he there? The science should be independent and should not be political.

Sending a letter to care homes telling them to take in Covid patients. We know they did, my gran is in a care home and they forwarded a copy of the letter. When we queried it with the MP for the area (a Tory) he got back to us with a reply saying that it was nothing to do with the gvt, but a decision by the carehome and to take it up with them if we were unhappy. A blatant lie. They’ve since lied about this in the press briefings.

A massive failure to close borders. This was core to Brexit, yes? We were desperate to close borders. So why, when it made sense to, did they not bother? We had friends who travelled home, with a stopover in an African airport. In Africa, they all had temps checked before being allowed on to their first plane, off that one or on to their connecting one. They got to Heathrow. Nothing. Not a single check anywhere.

Being less than honest over PpE. Issues of sourcing it could have happened to anyone. But then lying? Saying that a pair of gloves is two articles of PPE to make yourself look better? Shameful.

Schools and the shambolic way they have gone about reopening. There is no easy way to reopen them, I accept that. But to announce it in the press briefing, with no guidance given beforehand, to then send out guidance which is so the opposite of common sense (and BMA advice) that plans that were made earlier have to be ripped up, to then send out several different sets of guidance over the next week, and leave it all right up to the deadline....

I can blame them for other things going on now too. I can blame them for deciding to still charge immigrants, you know, the people who are propping up our healthcare system in the middle of this pandemic, for an extension to their visa. Please stay and nurse us, but please pay a few thousand for the privilege of risking your life here. And I can blame Priti Patel for promising a review and then refusing to conduct it - that was a blatant lie and I don’t see why she shouldn’t be held accountable.

There’s lots of things the gvt cannot be blamed for but there is a lot they can and should be held to account for. It’s the lying I cannot tolerate. Especially surrounding care homes. I listened to one minister saying they had never asked people to take in Covid patients. Yes, they bloody did. So yes, they need to Take responsibility for the consequences.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 20/05/2020 08:39

It's only the biggest crisis to hit the UK since WW2 why would anybody expect the Prime Minister to be visible? Particularly one that apparently sees themselves as a modern day Churchill Hmm

Baaaahhhhh · 20/05/2020 08:42

are you seriously trying to blame the NHS for being late procuring from the Private sector. There are so many things wrong with that statement it’s hard to know where to start to be honest

But they wouldn’t HAVE to procure from private companies if the NHS was properly resourced and hadn’t suffered a decade of underfunding

It's nothing to do with funding. It's structural. How do you think Germany is set up? They contract with the private sector, that's how. The issue with our NHS is that, contrary to opinion, they have an aversion to using best resource, which may be private companies, and choose to provide services in house, as some sort of ideological point. In this instance it failed spectactularly. Hopefully going forward this will change.

Cantgowrongwithstripedcurtains · 20/05/2020 08:43

indeed, which is why it is so notable that parliament is going into recess for two (not even just one!) weeks shortly.

BlackberryCane · 20/05/2020 08:45

It's incredibly easy to play politics with all of this but NO other party could have done better.

There is so very, very much wrongness crammed into one short sentence here.

This is an innately political situation. It can't be depoliticised. Even the suggestion that it ought to be is in itself a political viewpoint.

And you have absolutely no idea how any other party would deal with it. None of us do. It's merely an attempt to deflect criticism you don't like.

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