To think the north of England offers a worse quality of life than the South or Midlands?

[DDRickyDD]

I was thinking of moving to Lancashire, but having done some research online, it seems a lot of people have negative opinion of it. I'm now set on Warwickshire or Leicestershire. Does the north in general offer a worse quality of life than the Midlands? I know its cheaper up north but is it much worse up there?

Oh bollocks.

Sorry that was to pippa.

No straw men here. If you're not trying to claim the north is more violent than the south

I am saying the North is more violent than the South. This table is from the most recent stats I can find (2010 to 2014)

www.statisticsauthority.gov.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Letter-from-Jonathan-Shepherd-to-Adrian-Smith-8-April-2016.pdf

Your strawmen (italics mine) were

"so the north is clearly populated entirely by brawly fighters."

"You're saying there's zero violence in whatever parts of country you are familiar with?"

I am saying the North is more violent than the South, specifically London. More is not the same as entirely, and less is not the same as zero. Your strawmen were making my more/less statement into all or nothing so you could dismiss it.

Aside from the issues on generalisation of a huge area, Lancashire is beautiful, it's where I live. Like every county there are nicer areas and not so nice areas. I moved from Sussex around 10 yeara ago and would never go back, there is a community feel here that I personally never got from the south. I would recommend looking at the Ribble Valley if you are after beautiful countryside as this is a lovely area.

We offer better eye testing services than down south.

I heard that people even come from as far away as London.

Well seen as the PM’s bestie has been spotted visiting my local area it would appear the north is not too shabby for the posh southerners after all

I guess Barnard Castle is a prettier than average eye testing facility!

I am saying the North is more violent than the South. This table is from the most recent stats I can find

In 2019 there were 149 knife and gang related murders in London alone.

There were 650 murders across the whole country. This map suggest more in the South than in the north www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50925024

I lived in Leicestershire for nearly 20 years, then Warwick hits near Moreton Mor for five and now live in Lancashire just south of Preston. Best genuine community spirit I have ever encountered. It all depends what you are looking for in a move.

There were 650 murders across the whole country. This map suggest more in the South than in the north

Actually per capita it’s the North West at the top, then London close behind, then West Midlands. I’d say it aligns to the big UK conurbations.

www.statista.com/statistics/985203/homicide-rate-in-england-and-wales/

However, homicides, absolutely tragic though they are, are not the only type of violence.

aligns to the big UK conurbations

Apologies, I should say "aligns to big conurbations". These stats are England and Wales, not the whole UK.

Sorry,but Manchester, Leeds and Liverpool are in the Midlands, the North ends with York as the southern limit!

@pippahugo What a load of shite.

As someone who lives in County Durham, but has lived in the West Midlands and Warwickshire, I would say stay where you are. It's awful up here, especially where I am. This is on my doorstep, with the beach 15 minutes away, but hey at least i don't pay much to live here. Stay in the South where you don't know your neighbours and people will walk past you in the street if you need help. Seriously, it's awful here.....

@boobot1 I think that’s your own personal definition. If you said to midlands local news they had to start covering those places, I’m sure they would be completely baffled.

Sorry,but Manchester, Leeds and Liverpool are in the Midlands, the North ends with York as the southern limit!

Nonsense. Everywhere which is, or historically was, in Yorkshire or Lancashire is in The North.

Where has the OP gone?

We moved from a 3 bed tiny house in Kent, 30 odd years ago and managed to buy a 4 bed detached house and started a business with the equity that kept us going till retirement 2 years ago. We have lived in Warwickshire, Kent, North London and in Lancashire. We have the best football teams in the country, art galleries in Manchester and Liverpool, as well as in smaller places like Ellesmere Port and Preston. Loads of history too. Theatres in all the main cities, some brilliant gig venues for all types of music, and within an hours drive we have some of the best scenery in the country, and apart from a few localised centres such as Grasmere and Ambleside, you are often out of sight of others. We love it, although to be fair, we have liked everywhere we have lived. When you are able, book an apartment for a few days to get as feel for the place. It is great.

Cheap houses. Where else you going to get a naice 3 bed semi for 150k?

Where has the OP gone?

Warwickshire?

Actually per capita it’s the North West at the top, then London close behind, then West Midlands. I’d say it aligns to the big English conurbations.

It doesn't, not unless you ignore Birmingham - which I find is a bit difficult to ignore myself, having negotiated Spaghetti Junction once or twice - and Nottingham both. I'm shocked by that per capita stat. I knew there was a good reason to not like the north west.

Errol

It’s just the extra rain that puts people off. Manchester and that whole region get, on average, 30-40 extra days if rain a year than London. That’s a good extra month of rain - who needs it? Wales is slightly more wet, but the worst is the Lake District and the Outer Hebrides. Grey days make people more miserable.

I couldn’t be doing with it. There enough hassle in life without extra crap weather.

steamboatwilly12 Yes I know the weather has been done to death in here but was that photo from today?

We have loads of rape fields in my part of the south east but it’s been beautiful blue skies and warm sun since Saturday. From sunrise at 5am to sundown at 9.30. It’s seriously depressing to see those grey things in the sky anytime before September.

It doesn't, not unless you ignore Birmingham

Is Birmingham not West Midlands?

Weather for next few days !