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To think the north of England offers a worse quality of life than the South or Midlands?

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DDRickyDD · 17/05/2020 20:21

I was thinking of moving to Lancashire, but having done some research online, it seems a lot of people have negative opinion of it. I'm now set on Warwickshire or Leicestershire. Does the north in general offer a worse quality of life than the Midlands? I know its cheaper up north but is it much worse up there?

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agonyauntie2020 · 20/05/2020 05:04

Sorry, Southerners but now I've read the latest contributions to the thread I've gone back and read the earlier ones again just because they cracked me up the first time. And again. I love the Northern sense of humour and for those saying it's repetitive and not funny, to each their own. My favorite:

If only MN would introduce a function so reading a full thread wasn’t compulsory. Maybe some sort of ability to come out of a thread and choose another

Lighten up, peeps.

FinnefanFox · 20/05/2020 05:10

I love in the NE and an 5 minutes drive to the countryside, half an hour from the coast. I. Love how accessible and cheap everything is here and we are a friendly lot!

FinnefanFox · 20/05/2020 05:18

@KKSlider, yes Cooplands!

BlackberryCane · 20/05/2020 07:59

You have entirely misunderstood what I said there leflic. The behaviour I was describing as poorly informed and thick is thinking there aren't any Remain supporters outside London. I have a number of things to say about Brexit voters as cohort but was not saying them in that post.

Xenia · 20/05/2020 12:23

Indeed. Newcastle where I am from and London where I live both voted remain. Anyway we left the EU on 31 Jan 2020 so I think now is the time we put that divide behind us and not come up with new divides like between North and South.

Potionqueen · 20/05/2020 14:23

Lancaster canal today.

To think the north of England offers a worse quality of life than the South or Midlands?
drspouse · 20/05/2020 14:30

DH reckons it always rains in Preston (he often takes the train through there). It turns out it does have a higher rainfall than almost anywhere else...

hablar · 20/05/2020 14:47

You have also misunderstood BlackBerry. I did not say there are no Remain supporters outside London. In fact, I explicitly stated at the beginning of my post That I don’t see this as a north / south issue. You have put 1 and 1 together here and made 5, as so often happens in these threads..

The point I was wondering about (and many of us who are Euro living in Britain have wondered about) is the phenomena of what was known as the “ Red Wall” turning blue and I wonder why people felt so strongly about “getting Brexit done” that they would abandon their Labour roots and allegiances to Labour that had been held over many many generations.

That is NOT (I repeat NOT) the same thing as saying, “everyone in the north voted Brexit.” Confused. Nowhere near.

I do think that if you live in a strong Remain area, surrounded by other strong remain constituencies in a highly populated area, to the extent you barely (if ever) come across anyone who voted Leave, you can find yourself wondering if your area is actually at total variance with the sentiment in the nation as a whole. Not the North, East, Midlands or West specifically - just Britain as whole. You just wonder if this different sentiment is tangible elsewhere - or not?

I will say once again, that people all over the country voted Brexit and many seats were marginal - obviously. Indeed, the shires and particularly the area of Essex mentioned were only ever going to go one way. But I was wondering about what actually underpinned the shift in the Red Wall constituencies, because this was quite dramatic as a political phenomena,

BlackberryCane · 20/05/2020 15:43

I know you didn't suggest there are no Remain supporters outside London hablar, and at no point have I said you did. Speaking of misunderstanding and putting one and one together!

TheSnootiestFox · 20/05/2020 15:49

I've not read the whole thing and I assume you've been well and truly put straight Smile but as someone who lives in Beverley and spends almost equal time in Wetherby/York/Harrogate and then bits of Cheshire, I rather think we need to pity you 😁

hablar · 20/05/2020 16:30

Oh ok - sorry about that then Blackberry Smile

ToffeeYoghurt · 20/05/2020 16:36

I can't be bothered to rtft but what a ridiculous notion.
Housing is one of the most basic essentials for a decent quality of life. And generally it's more affordable up North. That includes taking into account difference in salaries.

As for Brexit. 40% of Londoners voted to leave. It's a minority but a sizeable one. People's politics are mixed wherever you go.

BlackberryCane · 20/05/2020 16:47

No problem hablar.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/05/2020 20:42

I wonder why people felt so strongly about “getting Brexit done” that they would abandon their Labour roots and allegiances to Labour that had been held over many many generations.

Quite large sections of the Labour Party (or at least, those at the top - the Momentum types) appeared to have abandoned their roots and old allegiances too.

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 20/05/2020 22:12

Why do English people consider Sheffield to be 'the North' when it's slap bang in the middle of England? Surely Northern England is going to be from Leeds up.

I'm from Edinburgh in the south of Scotland and for me, moving north would be an improvement in quality of life. Capital cities aren't ever going to be the healthiest of places but the further north we go, the better the environment gets.

ClassicCola · 20/05/2020 22:18

I'd say sheffield was North.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/05/2020 22:30

The centre of England is in Leicestershire.

The centres of the U.K., Great Britain and the main island of Britain are all in Lancashire (well,for the U.K. it's in Morecambe Bay)

Sheffield is in South Yorkshire ... the north of England but below the centre of GB/U.K.

chomalungma · 20/05/2020 22:50

Why do English people consider Sheffield to be 'the North' when it's slap bang in the middle of England? Surely Northern England is going to be from Leeds up

Have you been to Sheffield?

It's Northern.

ErrolTheDragon · 20/05/2020 23:12

Is Derbyshire midlands or northern - or straddling between?

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 20/05/2020 23:32

Draw a line from Chester to Lincoln to mablethorpe.
Everything above the line is northern, including half the peak district.
😝

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 20/05/2020 23:34

Have you been to Sheffield?

I lived there for 2 years back in the 80s. My Father lived there for 35yrs until his death recently. I've done the drive many times over the years.

According to roadmaps, it's 210 miles to the South Coast of England from Sheffield, and about 170 to the Scottish border - that makes it fairly middling doesn't it?

Chocolatedeficitdisorder · 20/05/2020 23:37

I do hope that people on this thread aren't considering Scotland as 'The North'. We're a different country with our own north and south variations. I'm a Southerner, born and bred in Edinburgh.

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 20/05/2020 23:40

I do hope that people on this thread aren't considering Scotland as 'The North'.

I just hope they're not taking it too seriously and measuring stuff on maps...
Cause north and south is a feeling, not a geographical location.. it also shifts from person to person. 😝

DarkenedTimes · 20/05/2020 23:45

Derbyshire is Midlands to me. I tend to view Sheffield as an honorary Midlander city too, there's so much traffic between us all. And I hope they appreciate the honour I do them there too! Grin

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