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To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

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Lifestyleinlondon88 · 16/05/2020 18:40

I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

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GarlicSoup · 17/05/2020 01:01

Very happy With Boris Johnson

User7764217 · 17/05/2020 01:03

No. Starmer could swing me back Labours way though.

colouringindoors · 17/05/2020 01:21

Very happy with Boris Johnson

Would you mind explaining why?

Willyoujustbequiet · 17/05/2020 03:01

They couldn't have done worse if they had tried. Mishandling and school boy errors of epic proportions.

It must be quite frightening for some conservative voters to have realised their Government was so painfully inept.

SeaWitchly · 17/05/2020 03:54

I have noticed friends and acquaintances who were previously pro Boris and Tory now posting articles and memes on twitter/facebook relating to government lies and incompetence with angry face emoticons. So yeah, I think they regret their voting choice and also having previously been so vocal about it Grin

An absolute joke for anyone to say Corbyn and Labour would have done worse. FWIW JC spoke out against the Tories herd immunity 'take it on the chin' approach back in March before the shit hit the fan. But yeah, the bloke who wanted to pay public service workers a fair wage and tax billionaires like Richard Branson would have done so much worse. Keep deluding yourselves Tory cultists Hmm

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 06:11

Tory voters are writing as though Mr Johnson made the right decisions in prioritising the economy over peoples health. However this is not true.

With their current performance they have managed to destroy both. Becuase they locked down too slow we are now in the position that they cannot unlock the economy without numbers rising dramatically and even if they do unlock people are going to be too terrified to act in a way that restores economic growth. Furlough has already been extended to October at a huge cost. The £330bn borrowed will be paid back by British taxpayers for decades.

Rebelwithallthecause · 17/05/2020 06:15

Would labour have spent any less?

What people also seem to be forgetting is the politics on this pandemic went out the window and all parties have been joining forces

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 06:21

@rebelwithoutacause. Labour may has spent the same but the long term cost in relation to health and economics would have been better.

EmbarrassedUser · 17/05/2020 06:23

No regrets here. I think the Tories are making the best of a bad situation.

Rebelwithallthecause · 17/05/2020 06:24

They are likely to have spent more though and what evidence is there that the long term cost of health and economics would have been better?

Redskylark · 17/05/2020 06:25

No regrets here, labour would have made terrible decisions and the economy would be heading into an even worse situation

Celerysam · 17/05/2020 06:29

2nd highest deaths in the world. I'm no Corbyn fan either but I don't believe for a minute that Labour would have gone for herd immunity.

You can't compare though because different countries are testing at different rates, recording deaths differently etc.

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 06:29

Labour would have lockdowned earlier to avoid unnecessary deaths. There is plenty of evidence that having a stronger earler lockdown has economic as well as health benefits:

www.ft.com/content/e486590e-8539-11ea-b872-8db45d5f6714

clausen.berkeley.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Corona_all.pdf

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 06:35

@EmbarrassedUser
'No regrets here. I think the Tories are making the best of a bad situation'

I think you are suffering from a bout of confirmation bias Wink
www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politics/article/boris-johnson-coronavirus-response

JudyCoolibar · 17/05/2020 06:46

Fascinating how all the Corbyn scaremongering appeared within 10 minutes of this thread being started. Those Conservative Central Office bots really need to start thinking of a new excuse.

SheWranglesRugRats · 17/05/2020 07:02

The Tories have been in power for a decade. Why did they not have a pandemic plan in place? We’ve known for decades that this was coming.

pilates · 17/05/2020 07:04

Definitely not

CendrillonSings · 17/05/2020 07:05

There’s no evidence that having a bunch of stupid communists in power right now would help the situation, so no!

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 07:07

@SheWranglesRugRats The sad thing is they dis have a pandemic plan in place but it was based on flu and they 'forgot' to update the numbers to take into account the higher death rates from the coronavirus. They also chose to ignore all the recommendations the plan had made in relation to PPE etc.

Tellmetruth4 · 17/05/2020 07:08

10 years of unnecessary and highly damaging austerity which caused deprivation for millions. Leading to the Brexit due to people being misled into believing the EU and not austerity were the cause of the issues.

Somehow the Conservatives with the backing of most of the media convinced people in the North the Conservatives were not the poison but the cure (after decimating those areas in the 80s and introducing austerity just as they were getting back on their feet).

Then despite having failed as London mayor (where’s the Garden Bridge money?), 100k pensioners install Alexander ‘Boris’ Johnson as leader of the Conservatives.

A huge campaign backed by most of the media as well as American data scientists and the Silicon Valley tech billionaire Peter Thiel ensure a huge majority.

Just three months later a cabinet full of incompetent people who were only chosen because of their devotion to Brexit have made poor decision after poor decision which has resulted in a worst of both worlds situation where we’ve got one of the highest death tolls and have wrecked our economy. The Home Secretary is so shit she isn’t trusted to hold daily briefings and the PM is so dim he knowingly shakes hands with Covid-19 victims.

Yet people still defend these people. Critical thinking needs to be added to the national curriculum to ensure the next generation aren’t so easily led.

Ethelfleda · 17/05/2020 07:08

Thing is OP, Corbyn supposedly thought there was a ‘magic money tree’ and the Tory party scoffed at their plans to spend money we apparently didn’t have. Then we end up in a situation where they manage to find a huge supply of cash to put half the country on furlough for 6 months Hmm

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 07:13

Exercise Cygnus - UKs pandemic plan
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/28/exercise-cygnus-uncovered-pandemic-warnings-buried-government/

To quote from the telegraph
A senior academic directly involved in Cygnus and the current pandemic said: “These exercises are supposed to prepare government for something like this - but it appears they were aware of the problem but didn’t do much about it.

“We’ve been quite surprised at the lack of coherent planning for a pandemic on this scale. It’s basically a lack of attention to what would be needed to prevent a disease like this from overwhelming the system. All the flexibility has been pared away so it’s difficult to react quickly. Nothing is ready to go.”

Reasons for the report not being published are likely to go beyond Whitehall’s paternal view and a desire not to frighten the public. The Telegraph has talked to multiple sources with first hand knowledge of Cygnus and all say the exercise revealed significant caps in the NHS’s “surge capacity”.

These gaps, which included a shortage of ICU beds and PPE, were revealed at a time of austerity. Jeremy Hunt, the then health secretary, and Simon Stevens, chief executive of NHS England, were cutting NHS bed numbers at the time rather than adding capacity. Dame Sally Davies, then chief medical officer, faced similar financial constraints.

BeltaneBride · 17/05/2020 07:14

But I bet there are many Labour voters thanking their lucky stars that they didn't manage to get Corbyn and Abbott in /unimaginable nightmare !

PrimeroseHillAnnie · 17/05/2020 07:17

No.

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 07:19

I think we are already in a previously unimaginable nightmare thanks to the current administration. I can't see Corbyn or anyone else (with the possible exception of trump) could have possibly have managed it any worse.

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