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To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

760 replies

Lifestyleinlondon88 · 16/05/2020 18:40

I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

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Lifestyleinlondon88 · 16/05/2020 20:36

Id like some examples of how they have done a good job and what Labour would’ve done so much worse.

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canigooutyet · 16/05/2020 20:38

Whilst those in power were running around doing absolutely nothing, Corbyn was setting up lots of things for constituents, he also set up help and support for the homeless, getting food delivered etc whilst the elected did errrmmm..

And prioritised the economy, could you explain how this has been to the benefit of anyone? Taxes will go up. NHS etc yet another pay freeze, so much for all the fake gratitude. Local services to be cut further.

Announce how the lock rules have changed without giving any indication of how it will be managed. For months, yea yea we know, it's not our fault, lost emails etc. Then boom no guidance, nothing just bizarre restrictions that allow you to have your bloody nanny/cleaner pop in, but the rest of us?

Oh and when any of them bother to address the nation, they cannot even be bothered to give out the correct information.

Monkeys would do a better job.

Strange though. When someone has blood on their hands, they seem to attract a mass of supporters. And how any woman could vote for that misogynist is beyond me.

Oh, actually they have done some good, especially on Twitter. That video for starters showed more people how the nastiness runs through the cabinet. Oh and course, they've given the world a good laugh.

Toilenstripes · 16/05/2020 20:39

I didn’t vote Conservative, never would, but I cannot overall criticise the response to coronavirus. This pandemic has caught out every nation on Earth.

KTheGrey · 16/05/2020 20:41

@TheMotherofAllDilemmas has it. Agree entirely.

itwaseverthus · 16/05/2020 20:42

Well perhaps you should have put that in your op instead of endless posts saying 'still no examples...'?

Boris Johnson got my vote to honour the EU referendum result and was, as far as I could see, was working on that, prior to the shitshow that is Coronavirus. That's all I was really interested in when I voted for him, although am a more natural conservative than leftist anyway. As for the handling of the virus, it's been very bad as far as I can see and I think that's in large part to whoever advised him that out of date, buggy computer modelling by that old failure Ferguson, was actual science. They also took the attitude of 'OUR NHS' to possibly appeal to their new voters, giving the impression the NHS is actually worth saving and applauding. It's clearly in need of massive reform as is Public Health England and I hope this is first on the agenda once the virus is under control.

VeraorHolly · 16/05/2020 20:43

Corbyn's Labour government would have put identity politics front and centre. Some people loved Corbyn, but most did not. He never felt like effective opposition. I don't believe he would have handled this better. The tories are doing everything labour would have done. Spend spend spend. All the mistakes that led to this mess had already happened.

Now, I like KS. I might rejoin Labour. I left over brexit wishy washy.

I wish Labour had run someone else. I am progressive, but still don't trust Corbyn. He was awful on Brexit.

KenDodd · 16/05/2020 20:44

This pandemic has caught out every nation on Earth.

Eighteen countries have completely eradicated CV within their borders and several others are on track to do so.

NamesNamesSoManyNames · 16/05/2020 20:45

I'm a labour voter (doubled down now with Sir Kier, who I think is a much better leader...). But really, conservative voters don't owe an explanation to anybody for the way they voted, and nor are they obliged to regret their vote.

I would probably never vote Tory, but they have done some good things to try to cushion the financial impact for people. Doesn't mean I think Boris is doing a good job or that the Tories are suddenly great or that I am blind to the fact that we (as a country) will be paying for it for a long time to come.

StormBaby · 16/05/2020 20:45

The whole "anyone would be better than Corbyn" is an irrelevant argument, it doesn't matter, we will never know, and anyone who trots that out to back Boris immediately goes down as a blinkered fool in my books. The government that we have RIGHT NOW have made a terrible job of it, at numerous turns, and should be held to account. But they never are, are they? They're fully in control of the media, the public, and they can do what the like to the sheeple and the sheeple will still applaud them.

derxa · 16/05/2020 20:47

Eighteen countries have completely eradicated CV within their borders and several others are on track to do so. Who are they?

NamesNamesSoManyNames · 16/05/2020 20:48

derxa- I would be interested to know, too. I think New Zealand is one, and I am unsure about the others. Maybe Nepal is one? (think they have a very, very low number of imported cases).

weepingwillow22 · 16/05/2020 20:50

It is somewhat ironic how the only person who could come up with a positive example of something the tories have done well is a labour voter in relation to the furlough scheme

Hedgehog44 · 16/05/2020 20:51

I don't regret it. I'm not overjoyed with some of the decisions but I voted BJ in and I don't think the alternative would have done any better.

canigooutyet · 16/05/2020 20:53

If they had bothered to open emails they were sent back in January it wouldn't have been such a surprise.

They were asked at the beginning of the year to participate globally in track and trace. Imagine that, track and trace were available from January and it's still a shambles in the UK. And the connection between the pharma company and cabinet minister is abhorrent and shows everyone what he was prioritising, and it wasn't the nation.

KenDodd · 16/05/2020 20:54

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Countries and territories marked in green and grey. Many countries have only one or two active cases left, having contained widespread infections. All being well (really, really hoping for them) New Zealand should be CV free in two to three weeks without a single active case.

theduchessstill · 16/05/2020 20:58

Thank you WeepingWillow for that list. It really brings it home to see the litany of failures listed like that. Are any satisfied Tory voters going to refer to that post and tell us all how they are regret-free at this time?

canigooutyet · 16/05/2020 20:59

It would be too easy to start listing the countries, go and have a look at what mainstream media isn't saying.

Look at the headlines yesterday - minister apparently aired edited vid.
No apparently about it. Loads of us saw it ourselves, commented on it, took screenshots etc. The false info about tests - 121. thousand the other day, the reality was less than 80k iirc.

Wasn't we supposed to hit 100k a day back in March? Still haven't managed it.

canigooutyet · 16/05/2020 21:03

Oh and isn't it odd that Branson started whining about the financial difficulties of his airline company, even let a load of staff go. Not long after furlough.

Wouldn't surprise me if in a week or so, it's revealed a deal was made. Just like many deals that have been made over the past few months to private companies without going through the official process.

StatisticalSense · 16/05/2020 21:03

And if we can borrow to fight a virus, why can't we borrow to invest in our country
Because there is only a finite about of money to borrow. The more you borrow in good times the less you are able to borrow when things go to shit.
History shows that there will always be another recession and you need to be able to react when it comes by having public finances in position where there is room to act.

spacepoppers · 16/05/2020 21:05

Thank the lord Corbyn and his monkeys aren't in charge right now. I shudder when I think of what that would look like....

NiceTwin · 16/05/2020 21:08

No regrets, no.
A rudderless labour when all this kicked off, would have been a disaster in the making.

KenDodd · 16/05/2020 21:08

In terms of Covid alone, I'm almost grateful that Boris won. Not because I think he's doing a good job, but can you imagine the right wing reaction is Corbyn had implemented a lockdown or the furlough policy? I think there'd be widespread protests.

You're right.

mummysherlock · 16/05/2020 21:09

Nope, no regrets here.

Dread to think how Corbyn would have handled the pandemic.

BMW6 · 16/05/2020 21:09

No regrets at all here OP, because I can see that with a very few exceptions most countries (1st world included) have not been prepared for this, nor have had the resources to deal with the crisis.

I am a floating voter, 62, and have pretty much heard it all for 44 years of my voting life. I served 33 years in the Civil Service, from 1975. Have been under Labour or Conservative Chancellors of The Exchequer during that time. I know which party are idealistic, and which are pragmatic.

Pragmatic wins every time. For most people. Obviously.

KenDodd · 16/05/2020 21:11

Thank the lord Corbyn and his monkeys aren't in charge right now. I shudder when I think of what that would look like....
What exactly do you think would be worse than now? Genuine question.