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To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

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Lifestyleinlondon88 · 16/05/2020 18:40

I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

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amber763 · 17/05/2020 14:39

We have moved to 4th worst in the last few days, yes, but the media have suggested for weeks we are already the worst, which is simply not true, if you choose to follow the numbers

And the Financial Times study, based on the official figures in registered deaths from the national office of statistics would suggest that it is actually far far worse than the official government numbers

Snowballtorch · 17/05/2020 14:41

And the Financial Times study, based on the official figures in registered deaths from the national office of statistics would suggest that it is actually far far worse than the official government numbers

Which will be true for the figures of all countries.

weepingwillow22 · 17/05/2020 15:09

@Bruffin 'Netherlands has a higher population density than us
No it doesnt UK is 690 people per square mile and Netherlands is only 491.'

Pop density Netherlands 1089 per sq mile
Pop density UK 725 per sq mile
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_density

I think you may have got your miles/km mixed up

Alsohuman · 17/05/2020 15:14

Nope, I dread to think what Corbyn would have done if he had been in charge, he would already have emptied the coffers giving everyone free fibre broadband and nationalising everything he could

He couldn’t possibly have done that in three months. Do people think just for a second before they post?

canigooutyet · 17/05/2020 15:24

It’s widely known official documented death records are fudged. Have been for many weeks when changes were made.

Testing numbers someone stood in front of the camera a few days a go. Oh look at us, 121 thousand tests a day. Err no, it was something like 76 thousand.

Of course that’s if you get an actual result back. Many reports of results going missing or inconclusive and no follow up advice.

Great job there from cabinet ministers.

Schools okay to go back, but government oh no they cannot possibly be expected to go into parliament.

If they want things to improve they need to pull their fingers out of their arses and actually do something. It’s a disgrace they have achieved nothing, and by the time they do send out sensible guidelines it’s too late.

Many still think nhs, education, business etc sat on their asses waiting for updates. By the time guidelines that were already shown as useless were issued, many had already started to put plans into action.

BojoKilledMyMojo · 17/05/2020 15:32

I'm a floating voter. I voted tory in the last few general elections primarily because I like my local tory MP. I wouldn't change how I voted, no.

canigooutyet · 17/05/2020 15:36

Oh and who I follow politically. None of them.

How can you have someone in charge of health with no background?
Someone in charge of education, law, agriculture, media etc who have no experience?

Shouldn’t military be run at the top by someone with a lifetime of experience. Someone who worked their way up the ranks and deserved it.

Instead we get what?

missmoz · 17/05/2020 15:41

If you're clapping for the NHS and voted for the Tories in the last election you're a hypocritical arse. If you vote for them again then your even worse.

Clavinova · 17/05/2020 15:43

Question marks over the death toll from coronavirus in the Netherlands here;

15 MAY -
"the real death toll has been estimated at up to 40% higher, and new figures giving the total number of recent deaths in the Netherlands indicate a significant excess mortality rate."

www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/05/dutch-official-coronavirus-death-toll-rises-by-53-excess-mortality-rate-put-at-32/

Alsohuman · 17/05/2020 15:54

I'm a floating voter. I voted tory in the last few general elections primarily because I like my local tory MP. I wouldn't change how I voted, no

If you voted Tory in a few elections, you’re not a floating voter, you’re a Tory.

bellinisurge · 17/05/2020 15:57

No, they are still a floating voter.

Alsohuman · 17/05/2020 16:04

Explain how someone who’s voted Tory (or Labour) in a series of elections is a floating voter.

canigooutyet · 17/05/2020 16:10

Isn’t a floating voter someone who occasionally votes for a particular party.
Say labour voter going the Tory route last year? And the time before that several years ago both locally and nationally?

thatgingergirl · 17/05/2020 16:12

Alsohuman - it would depend on how old they are, how many elections they've voted in and how they voted in each of them wouldn't it?

NamesNamesSoManyNames · 17/05/2020 16:12

surely a floating voter is somebody who isn't a dyed in the wool labour or Tory (or any other) but will vote according to policy at each election?
As it happened, they preferred the Tory policy in the last few elections.
Doesn't make them a Tory supporter as such.

AnneOfTeenFables · 17/05/2020 16:21

This is fascinating. The government has proven completely negligent. Their approach has resulted in so many deaths and Tory voters don't care.
But I guess it's to be expected because they didn't care when previous Tory austerity policies killed people.
It's why it's so laughable when they now pretend they care about global health, DV, MH etc as a reason to push lifting lockdown.

They're only motivated by money yet too stupid to realise that if swathes of older people die then families who relied on them for healthcare can't work. Likewise if large sectors of the population are left with health problems after contracting Covid. Tories are steeped in short termism. The biggest trick they have ever played is fooling people they can be trusted with the economy.

timeforawine · 17/05/2020 16:23

Nope no regrets

bellinisurge · 17/05/2020 16:26

Alsohuman. I've been voting since 1987. If you have voted that long or longer and you have voted differently as you see fit, you're a floating voter.
I voted neither Tory nor Labour while Corbyn was leader.
I've generally always voted Labour. But with Corbyn, I couldn't .
Some people aren't 25. I know that must be a shock.Grin

StormzyinaTCup · 17/05/2020 16:30

Explain how someone who’s voted Tory (or Labour) in a series of elections is a floating voter.

We have had 3 General Elections in just four years, if pp's MP has been in situ during this short time and he is good then why not. This does not make you a dyed in the wool Tory.

Alsohuman · 17/05/2020 16:31

I first voted in the first EU referendum so 1975. I’ve never voted Conservative and I spoilt my paper in December. I’m a Labour voter. And I’m a lot older than 25, as you can see! I won’t bother with the silly face.

itsgettingweird · 17/05/2020 16:31

Those saying we have second largest death rate.

Have you looked at countries with smaller populations? Looked at countries who are reporting 3x the amount of cases and 1/4 of the deaths?
The only we can be sure of if we trust our government is that they haven't hidden death rates hence why ours is high.

Brazil has an awful epidemic.

Spain's deaths per million is way higher than ours.

Italy's is similar.

China's and Russia's figures are probably best taken with a pinch of salt!

Mancity100 · 17/05/2020 16:32

We record deaths different to other countries it’s been said all along as Spain and Italy don’t record care home deaths

Also Scotland, Northern Ireland and wales have there own government who set the rules for there own country so to blame the government not fully right

bellinisurge · 17/05/2020 16:32

If you think everyone who votes Tory is a Tory then I suspect you aren't going to grow up any time soon.

BambinoJune · 17/05/2020 16:38

And no, they're still not comparing to other world leaders. Still stuck on Corbyn / Momentum. Oh dear, they really are a sticking their heads in the sand.

Roll on the next GE where Starmer can show the nation what integrity looks like.

Rowantree2020 · 17/05/2020 16:39

You won’t get people to change their minds OP. But hopefully in four years time many of these voters will relocate their moral compass. In the meantime you can sleep at night knowing that you did not support or enable this Tory government.