To ask whether anyone who voted Conservative regrets it now?

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I would very curious to see if anyone would have voted differently, or if they had the chance to change their vote now would you?

If we are down on shadow cabinet family members breaking the law, how do we feel about actual cabinet members breaking the law by taking class a substances?

I voted Tory for the first time. No regrets. I used the information I had at the time to make my decision.

Labour was a disaster, as were the Lib Dems, and I’m not a supporter of Scottish Independence.

I filled out one of those “who should I vote for?” questionnaires before the election and my views were an equal balance of all three parties!

Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell didn't even have the personal gumption to deal robustly with rife, totally open, antisemitism in their own party. They were so afraid to offend the offenders that they simply made wiffly statements and ignored it in practice until Labour lost an election, by a landslide, which should have been virtually a gift to them.

The very notion that they could have led the UK response to an international pandemic and take any tough, controversial decisions is laughable.

Never mind the fact that McDonnell, the former shadow chancellor, is a self acknowledged Marxist 🤔 ... and Corbyn is mates with UK and international terrorists. Oh I'm I'm sure that'd be grand.

This will be a pointless exercise because people are usually more determined to remain stubborn than admit they may have learned something

Although I'll caveat by saying that I liked both Corbyn and McDonnell much more immediately after the pandemic hit the UK, with a more measured focus from both on the plight of the poor and less pointless posturing (aside from the difficult issues around antisemitism, women and terrorists). Shame that wasn't the go from the start as it would have played better at the polls.

I voted conservative because I could not face the momentum run labour party. The Labour party is looking different under Keir Starmer who has a more measured approach (for now). My dh cannot abide him though because he says whilst he criticises, he never comes up with an alternative/solution to the errors made by the government. It is all hindsight and a four year old could hold the government to account at present. He has no fire nor emotion.

After all, would he not have relied upon the same or similar experts for guidance on dealing with coronavirus? We need effective opposition. There was a cringe making appearance by JC in the H of C last week when he asked a ludicrous question that brought into focus his politics of the seventies. You could almost hear KS sighing.

I then have blood on my hands according to some posters and this kind of sentiment makes me believe Labour are far from there yet. When people are fearful, they vote to keep that party out, not necessarily because they are Tories at heart.

But I am very disappointed with our new MP. I received a letter saying not to contact him unless it was covid related. Yet I received an unsolicited email from a nearby LibDem MP telling me to contact him if I had any issues at all!

I voted Tory and am pleased I did. Their response to Covid hasn't been perfect, but I don't believe another party would have responded any better. I think they have clearly tried to do the best they can for the majority.

Why would anyone think Tory voters would regret their vote, but not admit it?!?!? Such bizarre thinking. There is no shame in regret and no reason to deny it.

The fact is, whether you like it or not, most Tory voters are happy with the vote they cast.

Most Tory voters don't have trouble accepting and respecting that not everybody shares their view, and those who cast alternative votes are just as entitled to the views they hold.

God no.
Whilst there will be many questions asked about the governments handling of Covid, I can’t begin to imagine what an absolute cluster fuck of a disaster Corbyn and Co would have made of it.

Corbyn was very close to becoming PM and his brothers actions do reflect on him to some extent.

Every time a family member of Boris does anything it becomes news worthy as it reflects on him.

Like when his brother resigned from his cabinet because he couldn't countenance the direction Johnson was taking the country in? Or does it not work that way around?

Honestly rolling my eyes at how people think Corbyn would have been a disaster because of all the money he would have given those less able to survive the financial impact of this virus. That's exactly what the current government are now doing.

Strange isn't it, that when push comes to shove, what we need are more socialist values.

How would Labour have coped?
Look at the PPE fiasco. Remind me again when it was last ordered? You would think things like that, someone from the health department would have checked on them. But nope.

And what else can WHO do beyond sending info to governments? They cannot force themselves in and tell them what to do. Info about testing markers, sample, ppe, hand washing, track and trace etc was all getting sent from January 1st. As they started to get more info, they shared it globally.

Ask those in Corbyns constituency how he’s doing.
And didn’t he also oppose the lunacy of herd immunity?

Who knows if any other party was in they might have paid attention to what was coming. They might have ensured a couple of years ago, policies, PPE etc where all updated. Instead of saying fuck you world, worked with other countries. Got involved with track and trace in January etc.

Instead we get lies, corruption and a lot of needless deaths. A PM who now just says whatever he feels like it without thinking about the how’s or anyone really. Why should he? When this is over as far as he’s concerned he gets to walk away from a mess that he helped create.

Labour are winning here! It's an unknown territory and they will have the luxury of insight to tore apart every single decision the current government has taken, which is so much easier to do in retrospect than when you actually have to make a decision urgently.

They will turn every number in a proof the current government was wrong: too successful? then measures were too strict
Not enough? then measures were not strict enough
It will be a feast of "could have"/ "should have"/ "WE would have".

Labour has shown no sign whatsoever they would have done a better job, no advice, no clear and consistent position.

I dread to think what will happen to this country if they come back in power in a the middle of a worldwide recession post-pandemic. What will be left of our economy will be shot to pieces. I am not looking forward to that, so why on earth would I want to vote for them?

They might have ensured a couple of years ago, policies, PPE etc where all updated.

Did they, though? When they were in power? Did we have a lovely big stockpile of pandemic supplies back then?

No. No we didn't.

Both Corbyn and Johnson contributed to the Tories' success at the last election.
And Johnson and his third rate Cabinet will be responsible for Tories abject failure at the next election.

Clearly there was something in stock to go out of date during the past decade and not replaced.

At the end of the day opposition parties can raise stuff, but have no final say.

It’s up to the PM who he listens to and what he tells the nation. So far he’s listened to Scientists with no or little credibility, who refuses to share findings because others in the field wouldn’t understand 🤣

Tells everyone to do x,y and z without a clear plan. If various industries had sat and waited, they would be still waiting.

Just look at what happened this week. Go back to work. Monday oh we meant on Wednesday and only if paperwork submitted and accepted to meet the guidelines. No thought about public travel workers off because they either have the illness or in the shielding group, never mind those on AL. And BJ expecting what 20 commuters per carriage during rush hour 🤣 Government have had weeks to get these guidelines out and it’s not like one person is responsible they have whole departments for this.

No regrets at all. This is a very difficult situation - which would challenge any government of any colour.

And Johnson and his third rate Cabinet will be responsible for Tories abject failure at the next election.

I know Labour is heavily celebrating to have been safely away from any decision making during the pandemic, but why do you think the Tories will have an abject failure?

And why did any government need their hands holding?
The world was told something nasty is coming your way. Here’s what we know about it. Here’s a test starter kit to use. Here is what it is related to and what we know about that.

There are threads from January and February warning others about what was coming. How could they see it and not the leaders? How could people have started planning for lock down whilst the leaders where doing not a lot?

Companies telling the leaders let us help. How can we help? Mainly ignored and since then it’s come out that private deals were made to the benefit of cabinet ministers. Tests being sent to America when labs left closed in the U.K. WHO had sent up global centres in key areas to help other countries ease their strain. Ok they have made errors along the way, and may have profited from private sector despite what they publish. They are not to blame for the fuck ups made by this government. And honestly, I’ve had more usable info from WHO than I have had from the frauds in cabinet. If WHO were taking back handers at least they were getting stuff done and quickly.

I didn't vote for either (lib dem) because I couldn't bear either.

Now? I'd vote for Keir Starmer. He's far brighter, more experienced and intuitive than BJ - and he could hardly have done a worse job than the worst death rate in Europe, could he? Could anyone?! Jesus...

I’ve come back the morning after and I STILL can’t see clear examples of how Boris Johnson has done a good job. It feels like most of you have been brainwashed by the media to hate Corbyn and nothing will change your minds because you have some superiority complex.

I know several people who have huge regrets about voting Tory ‘to get brexit done’ it’s amazing how no one here will just say it.

I feel you are so blinded and brainwashed that you can’t see that our country has been torn apart and thousands have died ... not only due to Covid but due to austerity.

I feel most people who voted Tory have an ‘as long as I’m alright’ attitude and will never admit it. Partly why I made the post, I thought at least a decent percentage would have the gall to say what a terrible job BoJo has done.

People have ignored facts through the whole thread and have no good reasoning as to why it would be soooo awful if Labour was in charge.

As for the possibility of having Abbott in charge, Patel is no better and to be fair I don’t think they would’ve been idiotic enough to ignore world specialists and shake people’s hands who had the virus.

I believe JC would have attended every Cobra meeting, would have put the country on lockdown sooner, the less fortunate would’ve been priorities (and rightly so), the homeless would’ve been housed quicker.... and that’s just to start with.

It would have been good to have a proper debate, but there’s no sense here it seems.

Only when it affects you personally will your minds change.

The selfishness sickens me.

Good luck to you all!

I think it’s shown you are in the minority of your mindset on the matter OP

Scotland has shown that lockdown sooner for us would have just meant lockdown for longer

It doesn’t prove anyone made the right decision on that yet

Sorry you’re disappointed with the answer you’ve got to your original post OP 🤷‍♀️. Maybe Starmer will be your knight in shining armour in 4 years time.

and I STILL can’t see clear examples of how Boris Johnson has done a good job.

what would you suggest they had done?

I personally think a stricter lockdown would have been a better choice, but at least half of the population disagrees with that. We will know after this is all over what possibly could have been the best solution.

Sadly the decisions have to be made NOW.