To ask what employers will think when people refuse to send their kids back to school?

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Quite a lot of people on MN are business owners or senior managers. The general mood seems to be shifting towards parents deciding not to send their kids back to school when they re-open.

Many employers have, rightly, been happy to make allowances for employees working at less than full ability/hours while they have had children at home needing care. Do you think that tolerance is likely to change if an employee has school or nursery available but chooses not to use it?

OneandTwenty Interesting you assume I’m sending my child in June. I haven’t said that at all.

And it can’t even enter your tiny mind that people need to send their children in order to make ends meet, rather than being in a rush?

What is the long term effect of having overprotective parents, does anyone know? Do kids grow up more anxious, hyper aware of tiny risks, do they rebel and turn into adrenaline junkies or no effect at all and just stay safer than the other kids?

Just seen this...where do you draw the line?
As for the effect of overprotection on the wellbeing of the child, studies have shown that overprotective parenting can lead to risk aversion, a dependency on the parents, a higher risk of psychological disorders, a lack of strong coping mechanisms, and chronic anxiety—which intuitively, makes a lot of sense.

What is the long term effect of having overprotective parents, does anyone know? Do kids grow up more anxious, hyper aware of tiny risks, do they rebel and turn into adrenaline junkies or no effect at all and just stay safer than the other kids?

I love the goady posts - seems it is very hard for some people to accept that someone might have another opinion and makes other choices

I am still curious why other parental choices bring such a very strong reaction like that one?

What is the long term effect of having overprotective parents, does anyone know? Do kids grow up more anxious, hyper aware of tiny risks, do they rebel and turn into adrenaline junkies or no effect at all and just stay safer than the other kids?

Well speaking for myself, I ignore all the things my over protective mother said (Don't go there, you'll be attacked, You can't go to the park with 3 friends and a dog, it's not safe, etc.). I was thinking about this yesterday as, shock horror, I walked along a wooded track on my own.

Funnily enough these rules only applied to fun things that I wanted to do, I was expected to go to school come hell or high water, even when there were riots next to the school the night before.

OneandTwenty It’s you with the strong reaction, not others, it’s you taking about waiting to see how children “survive”. That’s a strong reaction right there.

I wasn't being goady - why would you think that? This is a discussion about risks. I was presenting a different set of risks you have not mentioned but they are relevant.
You make a decision and it has consequences elsewhere - you think keeping your kids at home will have no impact on how they see themselves and their interaction with the outside world, zero risk? Just leave the risk to everyone else?
I don't agree that keeping one's kids at home will not affect how they see themselves...it's a risk you are taking that I'm wrong and you're right but you are still taking a risk - just maybe not with Covid.

You make a decision and it has consequences elsewhere - you think keeping your kids at home will have no impact on how they see themselves and their interaction with the outside world,

because I keep them home for a couple of weeks? I am sure they will somehow manage to overcome that traumatic choice

Do you even know what their school offer them? Just because you have decided that the current school day offered has no impact on them doesn't make it true.

There are worldwide specialists currently arguing about life-changing effects of the disease, about kawasaki disease and about a lot of things. Clearly there is something to argue about at their level. Sharon on Facebook or RitzSpy on MN might have strong opinions they take for facts, until Sharon and RitzSpy get a Nobel Price and are recognised by the international community for their groundbreaking solution to the pandemic, I will just ignore them for now

because I keep them home for a couple of weeks? I am sure they will somehow manage to overcome that traumatic choice You'll never know the change in them, you can only assess the risk - hopefully you'll think about all the risks - not just the most obvious and make your choice - you have no control over the outcome and will have no idea what impact your decision had.

So what difference will keeping them home a couple of weeks make? Nothing will radically change in 14 days.

I ready don't get this 'keeping them for a couple more weeks'. What's going to change risk-wise in 2 weeks? How much does the risk needs to reduce by to be one ok?

Risk is much more a matter of perception for people than scientifically assessed facts.

There seem to be more people frightened of flying than driving yet the risk of the latter are significant higher than the former.

Parents are more scared of letting their kids at home alone in fear something could happen to them at home yet they themselves are much at risk of an accident whilst they are out and about.

People make decisions based on their perceived risk when sadly these are not founded.

I ready don't get this 'keeping them for a couple more weeks'. What's going to change risk-wise in 2 weeks?

it's less about risk than seeing what the infection rate does now that the lockdown or most of the restrictions have been lifted.

Do you know what effect people going back to work in public transports are? Do you know what effect reopening schools has?

You don't, and some of us are waiting a few weeks to see and start planning for our own family. Countries who reopened schools are already having to close down quite a few because of the risk, after less than a week, so we are not quite back to normal just yet.

My children need more vitamin D and a holiday than they need to be in classroom separated from their friends right now.

Being called an "hysterical snowflake" because I am not rushing means it's someone else who has a problem with the situation, not me

The reopening of schools doesn't apply to every school (some councils aren't going ahead), it doesn't apply to every year ( and many parents have kids in more than 1 year so even if one goes in others may still be off), it doesn't apply to secondary school ) and teenagers do still need a bit of supervision/ homeschooling. Most of us are still waiting to hear from individual schools if and when reopening is going ahead ( many have said 1 June isn't doable due to zero consultation and last minute changing of guidance from government). Based on all these factors a lot is still up in the sir, we're not sure when Schools are actually reopening (even Dominic Raab was saying maybe), or for how long. The ambition is to get all students back for a bit but it may o Lu be a week or two and then who knows what alert level we will be at come September. The media are selling this as a done deal, they took the Prime ministers 'IF' and turned it into 'fact'. It's far from that and employers can't be planning on the basis of their employees all being able to merrily send their kids into school in a few weeks.

hysterical snowflake who called you that? You certainly seem very chilled - despite your frequent use of

OneandTwenty Who called you a hysterical snowflake?

It's coming up 2 months now since schools have closed...bit more than 2 weeks so any affects will already be taking place.

@OneandTwenty No one here cares two hoots what you choose to do, but if you work and your childcare/school is available and you choose not to use it, then don't be surprised if you don't get paid or don't have a job in a few months. I think that is the gist of this thread.

@Lochroy pretty much sums its up