To think it’s about time @MNHQ stepped up and did something about the teacher bashing.

[SachaStark]

This evening has been AWFUL here on the AIBU board.

@MNHQ, at what point do you actually plan to intervene and do something about the sheer number of teacher bashing threads, and individual posts? Should we expect any kind of moderation?

Or, is this in fact, “all in the spirit of Mumsnet”? Because at the moment, you’re making it look a darn sight like you agree by proxy.

Can Do (please no more Can’t Do!).

Fed up of the teaching profession and their unions trashing children’s education. Massive snowflakes and honestly the teachers who are claiming to be working 12 hour day, never worked harder etc etc. Honestly I don’t think anyone believes you!

I don’t want to contact the school as I know they are trying their best

Contact them.

Exactly babbas. Yesterday evening teachers on Mumsnet called me a cunt and a twat and a wanker for saying I thought it was a scandal many children aren't being educated in anyway. And they kept calling me rude names even after I asked them to stop because I have suffered DV and it was very triggering.

And other teachers are saying parents can easily teach their own children. Which seems an astonishingly (and unfairly) damning indictment of their profession, as I would never think an untrained person could do my job.

Contrast between the better private and state schools and others perhaps illustrated here www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8327217/Covids-classroom-divide-Survey-reveals-700-000-state-pupils-NO-home-lessons-all.html including sample timetable from one of the better prep schools.

"Many state schools offer similarly impressive provision. At Ursuline High, a Catholic girls' school in Wimbledon, South West London, every pupil has a tablet and six online lessons a day. Parents are informed if their child does not log on at the start of the school day."

Yesterday evening teachers on Mumsnet called me a cunt and a twat and a wanker for saying I thought it was a scandal many children aren't being educated in anyway. And they kept calling me rude names even after I asked them to stop because I have suffered DV and it was very triggering

Is this a TAAT? If so, stop it.

Could I ask please. Those parents who are complaining that their children are being given a few worksheets, complete them and hear nothing from those teachers. What should they do. Surely this is not an issue for the SLT. It’s for the individual teacher to explain why despite the work being sent back they have not marked it. It’s only if they don’t answer it goes to a HOD.

I am sure as well that this sort of behaviour ensures it is difficult to actually contact these people.

I have been working throughout from home. If I behaved like this I would be asked to explain what is going on!

@echt but what do I say? They will come back and tell me my son should ask for more work or read further. He is never going to do that. Can’t even put his hand up in a class to ask a question. He is bright but needs pushing and certainly now lacks motivation having sat at a screen for 5 weeks. He doesn’t want me contacting the school as in the past when I have done the teacher, in class, said to the boys, ‘I’m only doing this because one of your parents complained”. He knew it was me and it wasn’t a complaint at all it was about homework and the discrepancy between the HT’s email regarding proper timetabled homework and the actual amount of homework being given out - none.

@echt it's a post about a thread. Totally different from a TAAT

I see sooo many more posts about people complaining about this 'teacher bashing' than I do people actually bashing them. It's getting really boring now.

I’m really worried about my year 10 child. My year 13 child has had his A levels cancelled. I’ve Now accepted that but I think the year 10s and year 12s in the state sector are in a terrible situation.

echt it's a post about a thread. Totally different from a TAAT

Still entirely unhelpful from that poster as they are claiming sympathy on no evidence whatsoever.

I dont see much teacher bashing. I see parents questioning what is going on. Because they dont know what is going on. I see parents saying their children arent being set any work, or work not getting marked. It's good to question.

@TabbyMumz I'm definitely getting the impression that provision is very patchy and of course it's fine to question that. But there are plenty of posts along the lines of "Stop their pay and the lazy tossers will soon be begging to go back to work."

Or...massive snowflakes claiming to work 12 hours a day - no-one believes you.

What would happen if MN began to self moderate through posts? For example, if everyone on board with flagging sweeping generalisations about groups of people simply posted 'SWEEP' in capital letters under the OP and then reported it?

No arguments, no mudslinging, no further engagement, just a flag and a click, then leave.

Would a thread mostly of posts saying SWEEP speak for itself?

Funny, isn’t it. I’ve seen a grand total of two posts over the whole of lockdown, which were actually parents GENUINELY worried about their child’s education. They used words like “help” and “please”.

All the others have just been an excuse to have a good bitch about an entire profession, even after it’s explained what teachers have been doing this whole time, and for the ever loving god, why your kid can’t have endless Zoom lessons.

The “but we’re just worried about our kids, it’s a scandal” is just an emotive excuse to be nasty.

Nell

I think the provision is mainly patchy. It’s not something that is a general impression.

I’m also seeing and hearing a huge difference in primary and secondary provision. Maybe because older kids can teach themselves more than younger kids. It harder to educate primary kids remotely,

What’s definitely missing is guidance. My school sets minimal numbers of worksheets, they don’t give any guidance on what the curriculum this term is, or where we could access other materials to support.

So we are left with a couple of worksheets. My DD is very good at English but she’s being given work like ‘underline the noun.’ I would extend her if I knew where to look, I’ve had more guidance from MN than school.

"But there are plenty of posts along the lines of "Stop their pay and the lazy tossers will soon be begging to go back to work.""

I've never seen anyone say anything as bad as that! Except on fb. Not here.

There’s been literally dozens of posts along exactly those lines, Tabby.

I've seen threads where a Mum has said her child has had minimal work, which is then jumped on by teachers saying "stop teacher bashing"...which is absolutely not what they were doing.

SachaStark I think what you (and other teachers) fail to understand is the pressure parents are under just now. Financial worries, WFM, redundancy, illness and on top of that are trying their best to give children an education.

And yet we come on MN and all we read is moaning from teachers. Maybe more of them need to have empathy with the parents right now.

NeverTwerkNaked

Which thread was that?

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That's what the flowers were for.

Unsurprisingly the goady ones decided to report the flowers for being mean.

It would seem some of the moderation on here means it's fine to scare-monger, deliberately spread misinformation and be goady, but don't leave flowers and report because that's mean.

SachaStark to be fair, I've been on a few threads where people have had valid concerns and there's been a reasonable discussion going on. Unfortunately, and unsurprisingly, the decent discussion was continuing despite post after post of goady generalisations from a number of other posters on the same threads.

No, you are right, it was this:

"Put the teachers on 50% of their salary and then see them all clambering to get back to work."

I have seen them, and I just don't think it's fair on the ones who are working hard. I think individual schools should be held accountable if there is little output and limited attempts to get the kids on board, but MN need to make it clear that sweeping statements are not acceptable or fair.

If a teacher responded with a sweeping statement about MNers there would be uproar!