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Please help me through tonight....

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higgypiggy · 10/05/2020 22:09

Please help me see sense. I'm sorry if this is long.

Things have been crap for a couple of weeks now.

Dh has always been awful with money. It's always been me who deals with finances - I'm sensible and probably over cautious with money. Also dh used to have an extremely bad gambling habit.

He works (extremely hard as he tells me everyday) and I stay at home. I have 2 dcs from previous relationship and 1dc to him. My eldest dc is autistic which means I don't work though I do get a small income from carers allowance and also disability living allowance for my child.

As I said, dh has always been crap. For the past 4 years, I've dealt with all the finances and it's worked fine.

Unfortunately we've had a couple of issues with cars in the last couple of years, we've just had no luck which has led to my mum taking out 2 seperate loans for us. Which she was fine with and we pay it back regularly and always on time.

Dhs credit has always been bad but now it's getting better and is in the 'fair' category. Mine is excellent but due to being a carer, I can't get any loans or anything on credit.

We've also been saving up for a mortgage and have been doing so well. That and dhs credit score moving upwards, we are perfectly on track to buy our house in 2/3 years - we rent off a friend who is wanting to sell and is willing to wait until we've saved up a deposit.

Anyway, dh had an idea that we should take out another loan to get another car. I've said it's not the best idea considering we still owe my mum 2 seperate loans and also it wouldn't look good for a mortgage....and why damage your credit score now when it's just going up by applying for another loan?

Dh also wants to lend a family member on his side (who is also terrible with money) £4K. I said I didn't feel comfortable doing that. We have already lent him money a lot in the past and 4K is too much.

By me saying no to both these ideas, it's caused dh to get extremely angry and tonight has been awful. I haven't helped things by bringing up my mental health - I'm at home all day with 3dcs and struggling. He told me I was being stupid and I sound ridiculous.

It's resulted in me ringing my mum and asking if I could go stay with her which she said yes too.

Firstly he said he didn't care if we left.
Then he said because of lockdown, if we left then we wouldn't be able to come back to the house until this is over.
Then he told us to get out, he wanted us gone.
Then he refused to let me leave. I said I'd stay as I was too scared to get the kids from upstairs to the car with him in the mood he was. I asked him to stay in the kitchen while I got them to the car but he just started shouting at me, I felt scared.

He told me he was going to go. He hasn't, he's here and sleeping on the sofa.

I've been in touch with my mum who knows exactly what's going on. She's been great but is worried for me.

I'm scared for tomorrow, he will be going to work so that gives me chance to get my stuff and go but he will be so angry. And for some stupid reason....I don't want to lose him.

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Backtothenewme · 11/05/2020 15:26

Dont respond or contact*

user1465335180 · 11/05/2020 15:32

If you're feeling bad for leaving, please don't. His text shows exactly what he cares about and sadly it isn't you or the DC. Stay brave, your DM will be there for you I'm sure. For you Flowers

Shinesweetfreedom · 11/05/2020 15:42

So what are the chances he will pay child maintenance.
If it is unlikely don’t give him any of the money that has been saved.
You could sign on to Universal Credit although that would be affected by savings,but don’t worry it will all work out in the end as long as you keep him away.
Speak yourself to the landlord if you want to stay there.

higgypiggy · 11/05/2020 16:10

Thanks all. One minute I feel relieved and then the next I feel like I could wobble and want to text him back. I haven't though.

I can't stay in our house, the landlord wants to sell, there's no point in me staying there. Plus it would be painful I think. Need new memories of just me and the kids and I don't think I'll get that in our home.

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higgypiggy · 11/05/2020 16:11

I don't know about maintenance, I haven't thought about it. He pays maintenance for his other 2. It will be a while before I ask for it, I honestly don't know if he will even bother with ds after this

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CandleNoBra · 11/05/2020 16:23

He’s shown you ‘who he is’ sadly.
Now believe him.

Stampy84 · 11/05/2020 16:45

@higgypiggy
Don’t text him back, leave him to it and I can guarantee he’ll be back in touch. I would almost guarantee you keeping quiet will give him time to think- no body likes being ignored!! He’s looking for a reaction

higgypiggy · 11/05/2020 16:48

@Stampy84 I know, even his mum said he will be back in touch. My phones on do not disturb. I've never not text him back before, he would of expected me to reply but I haven't

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WinterAndRoughWeather · 11/05/2020 16:57

I can’t see what you could have to say to him after his message anyway. It’s obvious he’s only interested in the money, which means he’s probably still obsessed with gambling (I thought the proposed loan to a family member sounded suspicious too). Anything he gets out of the family savings will be gone overnight. He’ll ruin his life, or move on to some other poor woman. Well done for getting out - onwards and upwards.

Oliversmumsarmy · 11/05/2020 17:01

Take your share of the money and get your own place with the dc

Pay off your mother and tell him you gambled the rest on Red Or Black and lost

If he did get his hands on any money he would only blow it and you have children to look after.

I can guarantee that like his inability to think of how you are his only thought is getting his hands on money and any CM he is supposed to payout will have gone on the 4.30 at Kempton Park.

Keep everything.

I know you will think that isn’t fair but do you think he will consider fairness when it comes to paying you anything.

Ineedabreak19 · 11/05/2020 17:07

Move all the money into premium bonds or a 60 day notice account.

Walkacrossthesand · 11/05/2020 17:07

higgypiggy, you refer to him as DH - are you legally married? And the savings only you have access to - were they accumulated from his earnings, or did you bring some to the relationship?

If you're not married, it's time for some careful thinking about that money, as he will doubtless claim it's his. E.g. Think about money you saved him by running the house, preventing him from gambling, etc, so a portion of the savings is yours.

WinterAndRoughWeather · 11/05/2020 17:10

Obv I’m not a lawyer and I have no idea if this would be kosher, but could you transfer all the savings over to your mum as you have debts to repay? After all, you both need a clean slate and to make sure your joint debts are paid off.

If your mum then decides that you don’t actually need to have paid it all off at once that’s up to her...

Keepingthingsinteresting · 11/05/2020 17:26

Well done OP, you’ve been so brave.
On the money, whatever you do make sure the debts to your mum are paid off before agreeing the split of the remaining cash with him or if the loan was for his car(s) and he keeps them his part of the savings pay off the loan. Don’t let him get away with paying or off monthly or your mum will never see the money back.
Good luck and be kind to yourself

timeisnotaline · 11/05/2020 23:28

Good job op, he’s a gambler so you need to make sure you have half the money plus some extra for debt repayments to your mum. If you have access Id move it. You cannot rely on trusting him, your children and mum will miss out.

PhoenixIsFlying · 12/05/2020 01:27

His text message doesn’t surprise me. The first thing my ex did was talk about what he wanted. I bought my modest property and he contributed but being an addict to various vices meant we were living on the breadline for years despite him earning 70k. Rather than be concerned about his child he was just concerned about getting his share of the property. Those sort of messages are sent to unsettle you. Don’t let him. He will probably play on your fear that you won’t financially cope on your own. Just ignore it you will. Also try to keep contact with him
Limited and factual. When you are a nice, kind person it can be hard to give them the coldness they give you. Please don’t let him talk you back because he will try. Stay strong xx

7yo7yo · 12/05/2020 06:33

Well done op!
I read your last thread too.
He’s not going to change.
Pay your mum
Back out of your savings first then use the rest to secure a home for you and the kids.
He would only piss the mo way up the wall anyway.
Well done Flowers

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 12/05/2020 06:47

I agree that it's a good idea to use the savings to pay your mum back - it's a debt you both owe her so is totally legit - and then it's entirely up to her whether or not she continues to pay off the loan monthly or gets rid of it in one hit. That way neither you nor she are inconvenienced by the probably-split.
If he still wants to give money to his brother then he can just wait.
Ditto if he wants to upgrade his car. (Or gamble the money away).

TitianaTitsling · 12/05/2020 07:03

Hi @higgypiggy well done on your bravery! Do you know about the website entitledto.com it's a quick way to see what level of benefits etc you could be entitled to. Or if you know your government gateway id you can have a look on that site too.

higgypiggy · 12/05/2020 07:31

I feel like I'm a bit wobbly today....I'm guessing this is normal? Like I'm missing him a bit. I feel like an idiot for feeling this....

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TitianaTitsling · 12/05/2020 07:45

Of course you will feel wobbly, a bit of a wow! I've actually done it! All the adrenaline that gave you the energy to actually make the final leap will be leaving your body so it's a natural reaction, this can actually be the hardest part at times, having the strength to hold to your brave decision 6 I wouldnt be surprised if he goes from the shouting to tears and sadness to make you think 'poor him'. As he keeps telling you he's so great and works so hard... well he can put that energy into looking after himself!

Shinesweetfreedom · 12/05/2020 07:50

Totally normal sadly.
Go onto Universal credit survival Facebook page for an estimate of UC
Good luck,cheering you on.

higgypiggy · 12/05/2020 08:15

Thanks, it's like I'm wanting him to text me. I keep checking my phone to see if he has. This is the worst part. Yesterday I felt like i was going to be free. Today I feel like I really love him....which is making me feel like a complete idiot.

I'm going to keep being strong - I won't message him.

I just would love this feeling to go away

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Hagisonthehill · 12/05/2020 08:18

Do not give him any money.
Pay the debt to your mum back.
Stay away from him,be brave and don't answer his texts.
Sadly you need to remind yourself that he doesn't want you he wants money,he needs money to feed his addiction.
When people divorce apart from child support the finances get dealt with last.You need to pay your mum as without you there he may already be running up debts,keep and eye on your credit as he may run them up in your name as well now.
This is the scarey time but you need this space to let the acceptance that you are gone for the last time creep in and heal.

Keepingthingsinteresting · 12/05/2020 08:37

It’s natural to feel wobbly OP. Stay strong, you did this for good reasons, don’t fall back now. Be kind to yourself & take it one day at a time

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