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Oxfordnono12 · 10/05/2020 12:48

Boris is an absolute joke!

Seriously, what has he done? The amount of people that are going to be affected by this virus is just brutal and all he is doing is, maintaining his up dates. Which sound like really, really, really awful motivational speeches. Can someone explain to me what he is actually doing? Am I missing something?

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/05/2020 13:10

I'm with you op. I don't understand all this Boris and Tory adoration. He also needs to make his mind up on Social Distancing. Street Parties were okay the other day. Yet people are having to say goodbye to their loved ones over the phone in Hospitals, so. Which is it are we social distancing or not. They Can't have both ways.

user764329056 · 10/05/2020 13:17

Totally agree, he’s an embarrassment

godyouareahhhhh · 10/05/2020 13:19

Doesn't matter who was prime minister people will always moan about something!

MrsDoylesTeaBags · 10/05/2020 13:20

I agree, I'm glad he's recovered but I think his handling of this situation has been poor and the advice wishy-washy.

Pinkyyy · 10/05/2020 13:20

Can I ask what you expect him to do? All of the world leaders are being criticized but they're obviously doing the best they can, they didn't expect this situation and had no way to properly prepare for it.

Ipadipod · 10/05/2020 13:21

Just out of interest, what leader/country has handled this the best ?

pussycatinboots · 10/05/2020 13:27

YANBU

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JKScot4 · 10/05/2020 13:30

I think the Boris fans are blinkered due to the biased press here in the U.K.
If you try looking at twitter, other countries are horrified at the numbers and how it’s being handled.

dontdisturbmenow · 10/05/2020 13:31

Yes you are missing slot.

dontdisturbmenow · 10/05/2020 13:31

Missing a lot

wonderrotunda · 10/05/2020 13:34

But they DID expect this situation.
They DID have time to prepare for it.
This WHO document from 2005 suggests how to be prepared. Including testing
www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/influenza/FluCheck6web.pdf

AllTheWhoresOfMalta · 10/05/2020 13:34

Elect a clown, get a circus innit.

Oxfordnono12 · 10/05/2020 13:54

My thoughts; they knew this was coming. They still didn't prepare. Now the peak has past; people are still dying, there ain't no PPE. Still nothing done. They amount of normal ordinary people helping is fantastic but government are coming out saying/DOING what?
Now they want to get people back out to work? How does that make sense?

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Oxfordnono12 · 10/05/2020 13:56

@dontdisturb what am I missing? What they done? Other than, give crap financial support.

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Awwlookatmybabyspider · 10/05/2020 14:14

I'm curious, too Don't Disturb. What are we missing. Please enlighten us

Ohtherewearethen · 10/05/2020 14:20

What bothers me the most is that there just appears to be absolutely no accountability whatsoever. I cannot think of a single other job where it would be ok to risk millions of people's lives, for tens of thousands to die, for thousands to lose homes, businesses, jobs, etc, and authorise people to work without correct, vital safety equipment, despite having a 'dummy run' pandemic practice a few years before which showed how woefully underprepared we would be, and for everyone to actually think it's ok because he is trying his best?! Every other boss would be sacked and struck from any competency register they have to be on in order to work again.
Compare BoZo the clown to the class act that is Jacinda Ardern and it makes me cringe. Worse than cringe because people are dying left, right and centre because of pompous ignorance and incompetence. He is not fit for the job and unfortunately people are paying the price with their lives. That man could kick a puppy and still people would think he's a hero.

emz771 · 10/05/2020 14:22

I think he is doing the best he can.

Ohtherewearethen · 10/05/2020 14:27

@emz771 - in what respect? What part of handling this disaster has he excelled himself in exactly?

Oxfordnono12 · 10/05/2020 14:32

@emz771 to do as little as possible?

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Pinkyyy · 10/05/2020 14:32

give crap financial support

Yes for some. But for others, the furlough scheme has saved their lives.

Pinkyyy · 10/05/2020 14:33

Not to mention the fact that he was on death's door and still went straight back to work. Give the man a break.

Oxfordnono12 · 10/05/2020 14:34

@ohtherewearethen Yup!! Agree!! I just dont understand or see how people think he is great. Brainwashed maybe?

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emz771 · 10/05/2020 14:36

The government grants, the furlough scheme, building over flow hospitals if needed - we get a lot more than most.

Alicemovedtothecity · 10/05/2020 14:37

No going to say if I’m a Boris fan or not but what I will say is who ever is prime minster when something like this happens can not please everyone. They are making tough choices and trying to please as many people as possible and make sure they do the right thing at the right time. To have that much power and having to make such big choices about peoples lives is a very big deal and must be actually very scary. Not everyone can be pleased with every choice. Fact.

Busybusybust · 10/05/2020 14:39

This appeared on my Facebook timeline:

Coronavirus timeline...

Quick recap (copied and pasted; feel free to copy & paste further).
WHAT A SUCCESS!!

December 31st China alerts WHO to new virus.

January 23rd Study reveals a third of China’s patients require intensive care.

January 24th Boris Johnson misses first Cobra meeting.

January 29th Boris Johnson misses second Cobra meeting.

January 30th: at least 54 academic papers about COVID-19 have been published in English-language science journals.
COVID-19 declared a public health emergency of international concern by WHO

January 31st The NHS declares first ever ‘Level 4 critical incident’ Meanwhile, the government declines to join European scheme to source PPE.

Feb 3, 2020 23 Chinese-language scientific papers on COVID-19 have been published

February 5th Boris Johnson misses third Cobra meeting.

February 12th Boris Johnson misses fourth Cobra meeting. Exeter University published study warning Coronavirus could infect 45 million people in the UK if left unchallenged.

February 13th Boris Johnson misses conference call with European leaders.

February 14th Boris Johnson goes away on holiday. Aides are told keeps Johnson’s briefing notes short or he will not read them.

February 18th Johnson misses fifth cobra meeting.

February 26th Boris Johnson announces ‘Herd Immunity’ strategy, announcing some people will lose loved ones. Government document is leaked, predicting half a million Brits could die in ‘worse case scenario’

February 29th Boris Johnson retreats to his country manor. NHS warns of ‘PPE shortage nightmare’ Stockpiles have dwindled or expired after years of austerity cuts.

March 2nd Boris Johnson attends his first Cobra meeting, declining another opportunity to join European PPE scheme. Government’s own scientists say over half a million Brit’s could die if virus left unrestrained. Johnson tells country “We are very, very well prepared.”

March 3rd Scientists urge Government to advise public not to shake hands. Boris Johnson brags about shaking hands of Coronavirus patients.

March 4th Government stops providing daily updates on virus following a 70% spike in UK cases. They will later U-turn on this amid accusations they are withholding vital information.

March 5th Boris Johnson tells public to ‘wash their hands and business as usual’

March 7th Boris Johnson joins 82,000 people at Six Nations match.

March 9th After Ireland cancels St Patrick’s day parades, the government says there’s “No Rationale” for cancelling sporting events.

March 10th - 13th Cheltenham takes place, more than a quarter of a million people attend.

March 11th 3,000 Atletico Madrid fans fly to Liverpool.

March 12th Boris Johnson states banning events such as Cheltenham will have little effect. The Imperial College study finds the government’s plan is projected to kill half a million people.

March 13th The FA suspends the Premier League, citing an absence of Government guidance. Britain is invited to join European scheme for joint purchase of ventilators, and refuses. Boris Johnson lifts restrictions of those arriving from Coronavirus hot spots.

March 14th Government is still allowing mass gatherings, as Stereophonics play to 5,000 people in Cardiff.

March 16th Boris Johnson asks Britons not to go to pubs, but allows them to stay open. During a conference call, Johnson jokes that push to build new ventilators should be called ‘Operation Last Gasp’

March 19th Hospital patients with Coronavirus are returned to care homes in a bid to free up hospital space. What follows is a boom of virus cases in care homes.

March 20th The Government states that PPE shortage crisis is “Completely resolved” Less than two weeks later, the British Medical Association reports an acute shortage in PPE.

March 23rd UK goes into lockdown.

March 26th Boris Johnson is accused of putting ‘Brexit over Breathing’ by not joining EU ventilator scheme. The government then state they had not joined the scheme because they had ‘missed the email’

April 1st The Evening Standard publishes that just 0.17% of NHS staff have been tested for the virus.

April 3rd The UK death toll overtakes China.

April 5th 17.5 million Antibody tests, ordered by the government and described by Boris Johnson as a ‘game changer’ are found to be a failure.

April 7th Boris Johnson is moved to intensive care with Coronavirus.

April 16th Flights bring 15,000 people a day into the UK - without virus testing.

April 17th Health Secretary Matt Hancock says “I would love to be able to wave a magic wand and have PPE fall from the sky.” The UK has now missed four opportunities to join the EU’s PPE scheme.

April 19th Michael Gove refused to confirm the government sent 279,000 items of PPE to China, despite Number 10 confirming the story weeks ago. In fact, as the Mirror reported in February, the figure was closer to 650,000.

April 21st The Government fails to reach its target of face masks for the NHS, as it is revealed manufactures offers of help were met with silence. Instead millions of pieces of PPE are being shipped from the UK to Europe.

April 23rd - 24th Government announces testing kits for 10 million key workers. Orders run out within minutes as only 5,000 are made available.

April 24th Dyson says the much acclaimed and specially designed medical ventilator it developed to help treat patients with Covid-19 is no longer required.

April 25th UK death toll from Coronavirus overtakes that of The Blitz.

April 30th Boris Johnson announces the UK has succeeded in avoiding a tragedy that had engulfed other parts of the world - At this point, The UK has the 3rd highest death toll in the world.

May 1st The Government announces it has reached its target of 100,000 tests - They haven’t conducted the tests, but posted the testing kits.

May 5th The UK death toll becomes the highest in Europe.

May 6th Boris Johnson announces the UK could start to lift lockdown restrictions by next week.

May 8th Govt announces mandatory two week quarantine for visitors to UK from May 31st.

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