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To Ask How You Think Lockdown Will Change Tomorrow?

162 replies

Popc0rn · 09/05/2020 13:36

Some people seem to think "lockdown" will be significantly relaxed tomorrow. Personally I think the message will be that you can exercise outside more than once a day, and go to work as long as you can socially distance in your job. I don't think seeing friends or family will be permitted yet.

I'm hoping it won't be relaxed more than that as worried that we're not over the first peak yet, and that a second peak could be worse than the first. I'm a nurse so can't stay home if the shit hits the fan.

Just wondering what other people think will happen, and/or would like to happen?

YABU - Lockdown needs to be significantly relaxed tomorrow.

YANBU - It's too early to make any major changes to lockdown yet.

OP posts:
cardibach · 09/05/2020 15:07

Besides, people are already seeing their family and friends
I’m not @vanillandhoney and neither are any of my family or friends. If your argument is that some people are breaking the rule so we don’t need to change it, it’s a poor one. Those following the rules need to be considered.

Mintjulia · 09/05/2020 15:08

I’d like to see plans for gradual reopening of offices - telling businesses owners what will be needed so they can prepare.
Reopen garden centres, refuse sites, hair salons, more shops, all with limits on numbers of customers, requirements for ppe etc

Set expectation for schools reopening, and how it might work.

Mummyshark2019 · 09/05/2020 15:13

I think he will say schools open in one week. And back to work of you can social distance or work from home if employer allows. I don't agree with this. I hunk schools should go back in September. So I hope I am wrong. The death rates per day are still high. It is too early to come out of lock down as frustrating as lock down is.

GrimmsFairytales · 09/05/2020 15:16

I think he will say schools open in one week.

That's just not possible. We can't open that quickly to the rest of our students.

PubsClubsMinistryOfSound · 09/05/2020 15:19

I can't see schools reopening that quickly. After May half term, perhaps.

vanillandhoney · 09/05/2020 15:22

If your argument is that some people are breaking the rule so we don’t need to change it, it’s a poor one. Those following the rules need to be considered.

That's not my argument at all, I'm just saying that people are doing it and will continue to do it. If (some) people want to see their family, they'll do so regardless of what Boris and co. say.

Boris will say whatever he thinks he can get away with in terms of safety and compliance. I imagine whatever they do, they base it on the fact that a certain number of people will ignore it anyway.

Namechangex10000 · 09/05/2020 15:22

I didn’t necessarily agree with lockdown to begin with (or disagree, just didn’t know enough to form an opinion) but I think it would be utterly stupid and make the entire thing so far pointless to let it up now!

my2bundles · 09/05/2020 15:22

Schools carnt possibly open with 1 weeks notice, esp secondry schools with 1500 plus students.

vanillandhoney · 09/05/2020 15:23

I'm a NT member and it would help my sanity muchly if I could take DS to somewhere for a walk with some sausage rolls and a flask.

You can already do that - as long as the walk is longer than the rest, there's nothing wrong with taking some sausage rolls out with you.

MaintainTheMolehill · 09/05/2020 15:25

I don't expect big changes and quite rightly. I think big changes were planned but have been scaled back due to Scotland, Wales and Northern Irelands stance.
I was excited a while ago about the prospect of a social bubble type thing but with my dh being a key worker its too risky to go into my parents home anyway and my best friend is a keyworker but so ia her adult son and daughter who live with her so there is too much risk there for us and our kids, so even with a big announcement like that I think nothing will change for us personally until there are better treatments in place and eventually, a vaccine.

PubsClubsMinistryOfSound · 09/05/2020 15:25

The government do need to factor compliance into whatever policy they enact, that's true of everything. And it includes the population being more lockdown observant than expected, as well as those not complying.

MadameMinimes · 09/05/2020 15:27

Mummyshark2019 I really don’t think you need to worry about schools being back in a week. The government have previously said that we’ll get three weeks notice.

My secondary school is not going to be open as normal before September, regardless of what the government say. HTs actually have a lot of autonomy over this. At most we’ll be open to year 10 and 12 with strict social distancing in place.

tartanbow · 09/05/2020 15:31

people can and should be able to assess risk for themselves like we always have

simple as

ILoveJoeBrown · 09/05/2020 15:32

Like some previous posts, I work for our local council. We have already been told that no matter what Boris says, we are only to be in the office if we can't wfh. We closed down one if our 2 office buildings so are all hot desking in one building. No more than 2 people per dept to be at any time, and desks blocked off so you are 2m apart.

Hot desking is an issue anyway - how do you know that it's been cleaned down prior to your arrival, etc

How do you distance in the toilet? Only 1 in at a time.. ?

As for re opening, it will take longer to recommission the closed offices than to decommission them, probably. I can see people being asked to go back but reduced hours or switch to 4 dw to save money. Or lots of people being made redundant after government assistance for furloughed staff stops

cardibach · 09/05/2020 15:32

Some people are revealing not just a lack of knowledge about how schools and larger employers work, which is understandable, but a total lack of imagination and rational thought about it. All back from Monday! Schools open in a week! These things are totally impossible to organise in those timescales for many obvious and less obvious reasons.

cardibach · 09/05/2020 15:34

people can and should be able to assess risk for themselves
tartanbow you do understand that it’s contagious? So you make loads of choices which get you infected and I, having risk assessed differently, catch it from you at the supermarket where I have no choice but to go. Brilliant.

my2bundles · 09/05/2020 15:35

Tartan. You carnt risk assessment when it involves a killer virus that even scientists don't yet full time understand. Also your risk assesment puts other people in danger not just yourself .

my2bundles · 09/05/2020 15:38

Tartan leave the risk assessments to people who are actually studyin the virus. Don't play god with other people's lives which is what your risk assesment is doing.

pigsDOfly · 09/05/2020 15:38

But Boris is making a special speech not just any old speech.

According to some of the papers he will be scrapping the stay at home message. I'm not so sure. I'm wondering if that 'special' speech is going to be him just reinforcing the importance of continuing as we are to a great extent.

So many people seem to have tired of lockdown and staying away from friends and family that maybe he's feeling the need to 'rally the troops', as it were, tell us how wonderful we've all been so far and can we just bear with it a bit longer.

I'm hoping there'll be a bit of easing but I don't think we'll be going to be given the go ahead to start seeing family and be off down the pub any time soon.

tartanbow · 09/05/2020 15:51

I obviously know its contagious but I love the suggestion that I am stupid - I said you risk assess for yourself

an example - me sitting in my mums garden over 2m away pretty much no chance of transmission. people like you loose their minds because it doesnt conform to the guidelines. however I can assess that for myself and think my mental health has been tested recently not just due to the lockdown and versus me sitting in alone with a young baby, me sitting an appropriate distance from my mum does not risk yourself or me even remotely.

Also the daily walk I'm allowed to go on, the painting joggers and cyclists that I literally cannot avoid because they come out nowhere - but this is fine because its within the guidelines even tho that's much more risky than sitting in a garden away from my mum.

would I host a bbq with loads of people? no - because I am able to assess risk for myself and will continue to do so throughout my life

tartanbow · 09/05/2020 15:55

panting*

WeAllHaveWings · 09/05/2020 16:02

News has just reported, from the end of this month, airlines have been told air passengers need to go into quarantine for 14 days on arrival.

I don't think anything significant is happening soon. He might outline some plans for the future.

PileofToss · 09/05/2020 16:03

It really bothers me how many people refer to him as Boris. What other PMs have we referred to by their first names?

He’s not our mate, he’s an incredibly shite politician Hmm

Sparklingbrook · 09/05/2020 16:08

Thing is though I only know one Boris who is PM and I CBA to type his whole name every time. 🤷‍♀️

HeckyPeck · 09/05/2020 16:10

If a person had to travel to work on public transport, spend all day not socially distancing from colleagues, shop after work in a crowded supermarket but couldn't see their family. They're most likely going to go ahead and see them.

That person would an incredibly selfish bastard to pass on their increased risk from traveling on public transport to their family.

people can and should be able to assess risk for themselves like we always have

What about the people who are hosting bbqs/parties etc? Should they just be allowed to carry on and fuck the impact on everyone else?

If it was a virus that you caught from standing in the rain and it either killed you immediately or no symptoms and you couldn’t pass to anyone else then if people really wanted to stand in the rain that would be up to them. People can risk assess for themselves when the risk is only theirs.

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