To think that unlike Adele, lots of us are getting bigger after lockdown?

[caperberries]

Having been reading about Adele's amazing weight loss, I feel as though I've performed a similar feat in reverse! I'm normally slim and healthy, I haven't been overeating that much during lockdown, so assume that it's just that I'm less active. I weighed myself this morning and have put on over half a stone! Speaking to friends, quite a few seem to have the same issue. AIBU to think that lots of people are gaining weight during lockdown? Or am I in denial and others are getting healthier, like Adele?

See with the intermittent fasting. Can you have coffee with milk?

And I haven’t seen anyone on this thread saying lockdown is ‘swell’ for them. Lockdown is shit for us, for various reasons that are precisely none of your business. One of the things that make it slightly more bearable however is the fact that I can go for long walks without risking anyone’s health.

Panic, yes. But the problem surely is those who come on MN to brag about how swell things are for them, how big their gardens are etc.

I can't see anyone doing that either tbh. Was it on another thread?

And I lived in London until a few years ago but moved (at great expense to my career) because I couldn't afford a house in London and didn't like city life anyway. We've got to accept that city vs. rural life has it's swings and roundabouts, and it just so happens that this is a downside of city living that many will not have foreseen. But it is temporary and those of us who are currently lucky enough to live somewhere where we can get out and exercise without risk of transmission should do so for the sake of our health and consequently the NHS.

I've lost a stone since lockdown started. Only another 3 pounds and I'll be out of the obese category. I still have a fair amount of baby weight to lose though and am ultimately aiming to get back to a healthy BMI which will take another few months at least, but I'm going to try my hardest.

A recent TV programme discovered that London was the region with the highest levels of emotional intelligence.

Well if a TV programme said it it must be true!

(I also used to live in central London btw. I find it quite amusing that that you are trying to make digs at people for being thick bumpkins because they refuse to comply with what you want them to do. It's displaying the precise opposite of emotional intelligence.)

You are also projecting bragging where there is none. People are being honest about their exercise, which is entirely legal. It's you that has the problem.

I thought the guidelines were ESSENTIAL journeys, and exercise. Not going for a walk in the car.

Well you thought wrong then didnt you?
You can drive to go for exercise as long as the exercise is for longer than the car drive.
If you are walking in a deserted rural area without seeing a living soul its hardly the same as walking for 2 hrs in the middle of London is it?
I could do the same where I live, its pretty normal round here.

One thing this virus has done is rob people of common sense!

We were not told in the regulations just to exercise for an hour a day.

Who said that we were @Xenia?

However the guidelines say to minimise your exercise time. Not run a half marathon.

No, but you just sucking it up and doing what you were told could possibly have made the overall effectiveness of the restrictions better and flattened the curve more quickly. On the grounds that I explained above about modelling the right behaviour.

If you dont see a soul on your walk who the hell are you moddeling behaviour to?

I'm eating too much but managing to maintain using intermittent fasting.

That's not actually right @ArgumentativeAardvaark. The guidance is non-statutory and would not be relevant when a court has to interpret what is legal and what is not. There would be no need to challenge the guidance - it is merely advisory.

That is precisely my point- if someone tried to say that they were law and had to be obeyed, you could challenge that in a court, which would rule that they were merely advisory.

I am well aware of the text of the law, thanks.

However at a time like this When the government has literally just passed these laws and then immediately afterwards spent a lot of effort formulating and publicising guidance about how they would like them to be applied, is it really too much to ask people just to follow the guidance instead of sneering that they will only be bound by the black letter of the law?

Adele will regain weight.
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You heard it here first.

Almost impossible to sustain such a massive weight loss statistically.

She looks great but she also looked great before.

@Willow2017 you are modelling your behaviour to the tens of thousands who you tell about it on Mumsnet!

I actually don’t think that not following the guidelines is such a bad thing if you just STFU about it. It’s openly suggesting that everyone should plough their own furrow which is the dangerous behaviour.

And I think it's bonkers that some posters in big cities (especially London) are trying to force those living out in the sticks to restrict their movements over and above what is legally required because London parks are too busy. It's so selfish and typical of those who think that the only important part of the country is the capital.

Get that a lot on here though. Usually its 'well you chose to live in the country, if you dont have the same amenities we have tough cheese. Not my fault' Yet when we do have something they dont like wide open spaces its all 'so unfair' so dont do it!

A recent TV programme discovered that London was the region with the highest levels of emotional intelligence. It seemed a surprise. Not now.
Still a surprise to me considering all the people raging about those in rural areas actually having room to move around in without bumping into someone else seem to be from Londoners or others in big cities.

We have less facilities, less public transport, less entertainments, less healthcare provisions than in cities, get told that living in rural areas must be crap, our own fault for living there etc but the minute we have something people in cities dont have we are told we are not allowed to use our own common sense and use that to our advantage! Talk about turnarounds! 'We dont have that ability so you arent allowed to use it either'.

Jog on.

We were not told in the regulations just to exercise for an hour a day.
Who said that we were?
Oh only about 7 million posters on here and every other SM since this all started! Its a fact dont you know!

I actually don’t think that not following the guidelines is such a bad thing if you just STFU about it. It’s openly suggesting that everyone should plough their own furrow which is the dangerous behaviour.

Oh, please! It's not dangerous to anyone, you're just jealous that not everyone is as miserable as possible in this. I can't even get to a shop and back in an hour, I'm that rural. So I walk for over an hour. I have a huge trail system about 10 minutes walk away so I use it and walk for miles.

@Walkingtohealth doubt she will as she has been eating keto which is totally sustainable in long term

Jealousy is a very ugly colour. Grow up.

That is precisely my point- if someone tried to say that they were law and had to be obeyed, you could challenge that in a court, which would rule that they were merely advisory.

No that's not what you said. You said that the guidance contained an interpretation of the meaning of the law, and that interpretation could be challenged in court.

The guidance does not contain an interpretation of the law. It is additional advice and on a lowest common denominator basis seems to have been aimed at those within the City of London and perhaps the centres of other large cities where stricter measures are required to reduce the spread of the virus.

Those of us who have escaped are free to determine that the advice is not sensible in our own circumstances. You cannot spread the virus if you do not go anywhere near another person.

I was out in the local park exercising yesterday and saw a few people sunbathing and sitting texting. I couldn't get worked up about it because the park was basically deserted 🤷‍♀️

@Willow2017 you are modelling your behaviour to the tens of thousands who you tell about it on Mumsnet!

What I do has nothing to do with how others behave. I dont brag on MN about what I do every day, I dont think anyone else apart from the good friends I have on here would care anyway. I dont do FB or any other Sm living my life hour by hour full of 'statuses' or updates or photos of me doing something incredibly boring to other people.

I make my own deciscions based on the guidelines and where I live. I am not responsible for others if they make stupid decisions because they live elsewhere.

I wouldnt go out for 2 hrs in the middle of London dodging 100s of people. I stick to the guidelines in every way I can but I will not stay indoors if I fancy a walk because someone in London thinks I should do the same as them due to thier circumstances not mine.

If its ok for me to work throughout this whole thing with close contact with 100s of people a day then its ok for me to go out for a long walk in the middle of nowhere if I chose (as in my local area, which would be 'the middle of nowhere' to anyone who doesnt live rurally)

I thought we were all adults on here, why do we need role models?

Spot on, Willow. Before this kerfuffle dozens of threads on how those of us in rural areas shouldn't be running a car (the environment!) we should 'just cycle' on bendy A-roads (I live in Scotland, it's quite dark up here a good part of the year), 'just' do this and do that but the minute it becomes an advantage, it's 'You're breaking lockdown going out and killing people!' Haahaa. I started down a sheep the other day. The ewe won!

instead of sneering that they will only be bound by the black letter of the law?

Nobody is "sneering" that they live rurally and dont have crowds of people to dodge its just stating facts. Facts that other people dont seem to like. Only the people trying to stop us are "sneering" out of pure jealousy that they dont have the same freedom to go outside without meeting a single soul for miles. Its not an attractive quality.

Fairly similar, but feeling softer around the edges. This is the time of the year I tend to balance out my Christmas/ winter gains, but with trying to keep twiggy ravenous children and a husband sated full time, it's not the time for salads and fish or 5:2 which are much easier to do without the ravenous hoardes in the house constantly.
Plus there's the boredom eating where it's nice to have a bit of sensory stimulation.

I very quickly missed getting out for my school runs, popping out for a pokemon etc, so I try to do little bursts of movement like short youtube videos through the day, although I've slipped off that waggon for now.

I've been getting out running on my rural routes which tend to take 1-2 hours, much easier for social distancing in an empty field where the risk of Covid is up there with BSE, Foot and Mouth, and Bovine TB. I've also been taking the DCs out everyday for everyone's sanity. According to the interactive maps showing deaths by area, by mid-April, I had MURDERED a maximum of 7 people across a 10 mile square area. That includes the two DEAD out of the 14,000 people in my neighbourhood. It seems far healthier for me and all those people I might BREATHE near to spend longer in the empty fields than spend less than one hour running in circles around my neighbourhood dodging the world, his dog and their children, thus saving hundreds of needless DEATHS.

If the one hour rule was actually a real rule, I would have abided by it, but there is no point in getting needlessly fat, depressed and unfit just because Michael Gove was bullshitting and other people have more challenges at accessing open spaces.

TinroofRusty
Me too. The only way to get to a the nearest small town is via a busy major A road or take hours there and back by bus. No chance am I walking 7 miles each way along that to get my shopping! And my good old hay cart has a broken wheel so I cant use it just now

I thought we were all adults on here, why do we need role models?

Have you noticed that the mainstream press does not ever report (positively) on Betty who lives in the sticks and still runs a half marathon every day, or old Jimmy who has decided that it is fine for him to visit his daughter once a week because he’s strong as an ox? The reason for this is that they have a tacit agreement at this time of serious health crisis to support the principle that people should do as the government asks. They may question whether it is right, and support calls for change, but they do not undermine it. However the comments columns and chat forums are full of people saying that they are acting in x way because the rules do not apply to them because of Xyz special reason. That thinking is picked up upon by someone (I read online that we can, User67345 is doing it ...) but they decide, dangerously, that abc invalid special reason also applies, they convince their family to think that way, someone in their family influences the thinking of a colleague at work, and the whole thing unravels, even though the first person was not increasing the transmission risk in any way. Chinese whispers.

Tbd, the only sneering on here has been the statements about Londoners supposedly having superior emotional intelligence and caring about their postman more.

Just because someone lives somewhere different to you, in different circumstances to you, doesn't mean they are thick or uncaring. You also can't assume that they have never been city dwellers/Londoners themselves.

Betty who lives in the sticks and still runs a half marathon every day, or old Jimmy who has decided that it is fine for him to visit his daughter once a week because he’s strong as an ox

The first is legal. The second isn't. Why have you chosen an illegal example?