To think if you deliberately break rules and deliberately ignore shielding on this way you shouldn't expect the NHS to help

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This is a rant and I'm sorry. But a friend of mine and her dh are both on shielding list. Boyh diabetic both obese. They have a 3yr old..
Because the boy is bored they've gone to parks that have been locked and climbed over gate. Same in a touristy area.. Locked car parks they've parked along side and climbed the fence.
Shop daily for a browse.. In asda etc at everything they sell.. Which is fine if there but they make a point of saying oh I go to that tesco or asda ( when theres 2 closer) so they can browse at different toys etc.

I tried to gently say I was concerned as they should sheild and she said we'll who the fuck do the government think they are telling me what to do.. I'm fit and healthy (she's not and I'm amazed they climbed the fence tbh) and why should I keep ds in the garden or indoors!

Their garden is a child's dream. I mean 2 trampolines, a combo swing set, built in pool, hot tub. Play room.( summer house) slides x 3. See saw, paddling pall ball pit you name it.. Literally everything.
I juts find it frustrating many kids would love that and never want to leave the garden.. I belive this is down to her wanting to be deliberately flouting the rules.

It angers me. When she said she was meant to sheild I offered to do her shopping etc.

6 times in 1 day she went to b&q because she couldn't decide what patio slabs she wanted!

The sad thing is if anything happened to her or her dh. They have no other family to have their ds.

'I did say it was a rant'

if we all posted on MN every time somebody on Facebook was a bit annoying the whole of AIBU would be full of tedious 'rants' the entire country is in this situation OP and listening to all the Peter and Patricia Perfects who are ever so excellent at being healthy and never losing the house is getting a bit old.

@ACertainSupermarket the “clinically vulnerable” are not the same as those who are advised to “shield”. The clinically vulnerable should take additional steps to minimize contact. The subset of the clinically vulnerable, the extremely vulnerable, are the ones who are recommended to shield. That’s what the PDF that you posted said. It’s two different groups.

That said, I live in a country where no one has been told to “shield” for any length of time and the death rate per million is less than half that of the UK. So does it actually do any good? Maybe not.

OP out of interest do you have children? If so, did you avail yourself of NHS services? Despite the fact that you personally chose to have a child and put yourself in a medically risky situation?

Do you drive? Would you expect NHS treatment if you had an accident despite the fact that driving puts you at higher risk of injury?

Do you play sport or exercise?

Do you see how fucking ridiculous this all sounds?

If we limited NHS treatment to saints who didn’t bring their injury or condition upon themselves then a lot of healthcare staff would be sitting around twiddling their thumbs with fuck all to do. The amount of illness or Injuries related to alcohol, drugs, sport or other general risky or lifestyle behaviour is huge - I’m not sure why you’ve specifically decided now is the time to be “Gatekeeper of the NHS” and only single out people taking their children to the park as deserving of death and suffering?

It would be good if what people read on Facebook was kept on Facebook instead of filling up threads on here. YABU

thinking that people who do “stupid” things like drinking, get fat, have diabetes

@Krazynights34

Your comment displays an ignorance which is widespread and needs to be challenged. Don't talk about diabetes without specifying you mean Type 2. Type 1 diabetes usually manifests in childhood or adolescence. It accounts for 10 percent of diabetics. It is an autoimmune disorder, not a fucking lifestyle choice. Type 1 diabetics have to exercise lifelong, rigorous control over their health, their food. Type 1 diabetics are not obese. Stop conflating type 1 with type 2.

Would that also mean the nhs shouldn't treat

Smokers
Drinkers
Obese people
People in RTAs where they are at fault
People who haven't looked properly before crossing the road
People who are alone but don't eat their 5 a day?

The list could go on and on. NHS treatment is not based on choices you make about your own health. And if it was the majority of peolle wouldn't get care. Pretty much everything could be blamed, at least in part on the person needing treatment.

@ACertainSupermarket that letter doesn't say people with a BMI over 40 or diabetes should shield though. It says they should be stringent with social distancing. It's also from March.

I’d just unfriend her if I were you. It sounds like you don’t particularly like her anyway xx

@BovaryX - I wasn’t trying to say anything like what you think. In effect I was mocking the view that certain ALLEGEDLY “caused” by stupidity or by the person’s selfishness should be not treated AND the assumption you think I made.
I certainly am not ignorant but I hope you feel better for qualifying what you think I meant