To think that Matt Hancock is not looking very well

[insomniasucks]

Just that really. It must be so hard being the Health Secretary during this difficult time. I feel so sorry for him.

Hindsight is a wonderful stick to beat someone with and some on here are grade A students.

One problem with this administration is that Boris has purged it of anyone who fears speak truth to power (including in the civil service). Everyone has to be fully on board with Brexit, so, think shit ideas are great despite all the evidence to the contrary, it's no surprise we're in the mess we're in. The other pattern I've noticed is that countries with populist governments, quite happy to tell blatant lies to the electorate in exchange for votes, seem to be doing particularly badly handling CV.

All my neighbours seem to think that we are in a paid staycation by the government and social distancing are out the door.
Everyone around where I live has friends and family over, are having picnics together on the grass in front of their flats, the roads are busier than ever.
It's crazy! There's no point in making this country suffer any more so better all let's just go to work and what happens happens.

People are taking advantage of the paid time off and not staying indoors. What is the point of this lockdown if people are not following it anymore?

I've taken this from another thread. It's something I've seen and read about a lot. The Great British Public are somewhat to blame for the current state of affairs but don't let that put the tory bashes off their stride.

Hindsight is a wonderful stick to beat someone with and some on here are grade A students

Do you think he is the best person for the job as Cabinet Secretary for Health at the moment?

Or do you think that no one should be allowed to discuss any mistakes, poor judgement calls and downright fiddling of statistics?

You do know British wartime political history - when Churchill questioned the leadership and preparedness of Government and there were replacements - because the leaders weren't up to the job.

The Great British Public are somewhat to blame for the current state of affairs but don't let that put the tory bashes off their stride

So what about the huge spread of the virus before lockdown measures were introduced due to the failure to make firm decisions on mass events? The lack of PPE? The total failure to screen people flying in from affected areas? That's all the GBP's fault is it?

I would like to hear @Sertchgi123 comments on the testing target.

Personally I think it was wrong to set a simple target. Because once you do that - and you know you are going to be held accountable to it - you will do what you can to get to that target, and lose track of why are you doing the testing.

It's good they have ramped it up though

I'd love to know how some of you lot would have coped had you been flung unexpectedly into a global catastrophe that nobody on the planet has ever had to deal with before; and be expected to know exactly what to do*

Like Jacinta Ardern

Not like a bunch of twats playing a game.

@Sertchgi123

Hindsight is a wonderful stick to beat someone with and some on here are grade A students

Feel free to go back through threads in FEBRUARY to see what many of us were saying then (though laughably we were accused of scaremongering!)

It's not about 'hindsight' it's about seeing what happened in China, then Italy etc and *taking action' not a bloody holiday.

Boris buggered off on holiday when he should have been at COBRA meetings, organising people to get PPE, ventilators, PPE, tracking, tracing, ordering accurate test kits, & testing stations &labs & PPE

Did I mention PPE?

Closing out bloody borders so track & trace was still feasible.

Common ducking sense was required not a crystal ball. Jesus.

Hindsight is a wonderful stick to beat someone with and some on here are grade A students

It’s nothing to do with hindsight. They paid for Exercise Cygnus in 2017 which showed the UK was completely unprepared for an epidemic. What did they do? Buried the report and blithely ignored it. We didn’t have to be where we are now.

You do know British wartime political history - when Churchill questioned the leadership and preparedness of Government and there were replacements - because the leaders weren't up to the job.

Although some think that Chamberlain is unfairly criticised because his appeasement policy bought time, and no one wanted war.

I do feel for Matt Hancock the pressure must be unbearable and he is wheeled out constantly for media. I have no sympathy for Boris who cannot deal with scrutiny and does a disappearing act. He was appalling in parliament yesterday.

mention a Labour leader might be posh

I think he grew up in a council house, he certa6had a working class background. His dad was a factory worker.

He is not posh FFS. Get your facts right.

some think that Chamberlain is unfairly criticised because his appeasement policy bought time

My dad joined the RAF in 1937. They only had WW1 planes at that time. We needed time to prepare. Had we gone to war over Czechoslovakia, we would have been soundly beaten.

"Certainly" sorry, typo.

He's been promoted above his ability (like everyone else in the Cabinet)

They sacked all the talent, or froze them out, because a lot of them weren't up for a no-deal Brexit. The likes of David Gauke, Justine Greening, Philip Hammond and Dominic Grieve were at least competent and able.

And I say that as a Labour Party member who supported Corbyn. But I have had a stiff G&T and half a bottle of wine, so may be feeling unusually magnanimous. [hic]

I felt sorry for Boris when he was ill because no matter what my political feelings, I wouldn’t wish corona on any.

But if Matt Hancock looks ill and shit, well I can’t say I’ll lose sleep. He’s just a nasty bastard. Expecting next PMQs for him to tell someone “check yourself before you wreck yourself”.

Mind you there are a lot of twats on mumsnet who will think he deserves hell because he’s an intolerant and uncaring Tory

I think he deserves hell because he's incompetent and throws ridiculous snit fits when he's justifiably picked up on it.

Yes, the manbaby tantrums are not a good look. I knew an MP once who was just the same (male). I bet there's loads of them stropping around Westminster and Portcullis House.

I have no sympathy for Boris who cannot deal with scrutiny and does a disappearing act. He was appalling in parliament yesterday.

He's going to have a horrendous ongoing problem with PMQs. He has never been capable of bothering to do his homework, so yesterday he really made it easy for Starmer, and that is going to continue.

I lost any sympathy after his performance the other day, when he had the gall to 'not like the tone' of someone working on the front line as an A & E doctor. I agree the problems are not all of his making, but he didn't have to accept the Cabinet position.

Again, @Peregrina, that’s not what he said.

hat’s not what he said

What do you think he was trying to say when he used the word 'tone'?

I didn't pretend to be quoting verbatim, I listened to his recording. It's pretty clear what he thinks of her tone.