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To be very concerned that Boris Johnson said this

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Worriedmum54321 · 30/04/2020 21:35

From the Guardian:
Responding to the argument that a more stringent lockdown should have been imposed sooner, he said: “Don’t forget, it’s a very very demanding thing to ask a population to do – very tough – and so I think it was completely right to make our period of lockdown coincide as far as possible with the peak of the epidemic.”

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jasjas1973 · 02/05/2020 08:10

If the actual peak death rate was around 1100 on the 8th April and is now around 800, that doesn't seem much of a drop and care home deaths are still on the rise.

According to a care home owner on R4 today, his staff still cannot get the tests required, he described the situation as patchy.

wintertravel1980 · 02/05/2020 08:32

On the updated chart including out of hospital deaths the 23rd of April was the highest, higher than the 863 on the 8th of April.

All the out of hospital death numbers post April 17th are estimates - ONS data is not yet available. Also out of hospital deaths are not reported on the day they occur. There are significant delays due to registration and bureaucracy.

I wouldn't use daily numbers for out of hospital deaths to make any conclusions about the transmission dynamics. Daily hospital deaths are a much more reliable indicator.

Guylan · 02/05/2020 21:02

@wintertravel1980, humphriescushion explained to me above the government is only counting those who have been tested ( not stated on death certificate as per ons). May I just check that the "total announced" death file on the NHS link you gave above is not all translated to the daily death rate for that day and total death rate released to the public daily that the media report daily? As I noticed the reports on the NHS website say it includes both deaths with a confirmed positive result for Covid 19 and deaths where COVID-19 is documented as a direct or underlying cause of death on part 1 or part 2 of the death certification process. Thank you.

Guylan · 02/05/2020 21:50

@wintertravel1980, further to my comment above, I realise of course that the deaths recorded daily on the NHS link are of course only referring to deaths in hospital. However, I still would like to just to double check whether the daily government released figures are only including the hospital deaths that show a positive test result and not include those where there has been no COVID-19 positive test result, but where COVID-19 is documented as a direct or underlying cause of death on part 1 or part 2 of the death certification process? I know the link explains NHS daily reports are now including both since April 28th. Thank you.

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