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To wonder why people aren’t more angry?

520 replies

Rainbowb · 29/04/2020 23:09

Throughout this whole crisis I have really been surprised by the level of acceptance from everyone in this country of the whole situation. I know we haven’t had much choice in the decisions made and we’re probably a very polite nation as a whole but we have been so quick to accept the arrival of a deadly virus and drastic changes to our lives, seemingly without complaint. Is no-one out there demanding to know how on earth this was all able to happen? We’ve faced the huge loss of human life worldwide and it is continuing, surely we are all entitled to get angry and demand answers? I see grieving families, children missing out on being with other children and not having an education, families being separated indefinitely, people’s mental health suffering and vulnerable people potentially at risk and I feel so frustrated and angry. If we got fired up about climate change, why not this??

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TheSkyWasDark · 30/04/2020 04:24

"Save the frothing, and save the anger. Conserve your mental health by focusing on being calm and positive, not expending needless energy being bitter and expecting everyone else to be."

This is exactly why nothing ever changes in the UK.

Casino218 · 30/04/2020 04:31

This is not really the time. This is the time for saving lives. This is a time for global cooperation.The time to hold individuals and countries to account comes later.

yogz1976 · 30/04/2020 04:32

I am angry that we threw our elderly population in care homes to the wolves by not shielding them adequately, and locked down the young and economically active. I'm livid with the media for all the fear-mongering and misrepresentation, and the hysteria and anxiety that has caused in the collective consciousness. I hate that we have just handed over our freedom to a bunch of suits, and we are sleepwalking into economic catastrophe. More people are going to die as a result of the economical and societal collapse that is going to follow this, than would have died from this virus. So-called Nightingale hospitals empty. ICU wards at half capacity. And meanwhile, people being refused life-saving treatments because the medical profession are only focusing on covid-19.
I honestly dont know how any of you can stay calm right now. Docile sleepy sheep....

TheSkyWasDark · 30/04/2020 04:34

"This is not really the time. This is the time for saving lives. This is a time for global cooperation.The time to hold individuals and countries to account comes later."

I can almost guarantee that when this is over, no one in the UK will get angry because "this is the time for rebuilding" and "this is the time to get back to normalcy".

Ouch21 · 30/04/2020 04:34

I'd sort of compare this to the stages of grief.

I have been through denial (just trying to pretend life is normal, even though I'm stuck at home and have no job), bargaining (well if everyone sticks with the restrictions, then of course we can all go back to normal, I'll do my part etc), depression (how I feel now, probably not entirely to do with Covid-19, but I guess it reinforces it). Anger not so much, since it's not an emotion I feel so much (apart from at myself, occasionally).

I don't live in the UK and am living under much stricter conditions, but I don't see what being angry would achieve. During the last month I've lost one family member very close to me, as well as another one. Lockdown or no lockdown, that would have happened. I am sad I can't go out, and don't have the ability to just book a flight somewhere and try and escape from everything.

But Covid-19 is not really about the individual, it's about something that can destroy families, cause premature death, and disrupt our way of life.

I'm not angry, but I am sad. But this is a global pandemic, and the world is much bigger than just me.

stellabelle · 30/04/2020 04:43

I'm not angry at all. It's a disease - anger doesn't seem appropriate to me . What exactly do you expect people to do - march in the streets to complain about a disease ?

Oblomov20 · 30/04/2020 04:51

I disagree. I'm well angry. But then I became Mrs Angry from Purley about 7 years ago.

I'm so angry I don't know where to start.

But unfortunately it's futile. Lessons aren't learnt. There will be yet another banking scandal or something else, in a few years time.

SinkGirl · 30/04/2020 05:02

Fairly early on in this situation I posted here asking where was the government’s plan? Surely all governments should have plans for major incidents like this. And a few people commented to take the piss, but as it turns out there have been exercises which have shown that we are not prepared for this eventuality and that was plan was needed. Nothing was done, and there will likely be tens of thousands of preventable deaths by the time this is done. That makes me very angry.

The government’s inaction makes me very angry.

The people who repeatedly voted for cuts to public services because it didn’t immediately effect them with no thought for the consequences make me angry.

I think I have been lucky so far in my life (early 20s) that this is the biggest challenge I've faced, to stay inside and sit on my phone.

I hope you appreciate that this is not the situation most people are in right now. If this had happened 10 years ago maybe I’d have had the same sort of experience. This whole “you’re just being asked to sit at home and watch Netflix” nonsense is another thing making me quite angry.

But anger does no good right now so I’m taking it day by day. I do hope people find their anger later and hold this government to account.

Thekindyoufindinasecondhand · 30/04/2020 05:02

I am equally surprised how quickly the majority of the nation (including myself) adapted and accepted this new way of life.
I think a lot of people are angry, but I don't think you would know on the surface. At the moment our lives are being changed so much, anger is probably not a good emotion to throw into the mix.
Also I think people in general have been quick to 'fall in line'as an increased chance of death tends to do that pretty well. I know I'd rather not risk it.

TomBradysLeftKneecap · 30/04/2020 05:10

Most of the world is in the same boat. What’s the point getting angry? The UK isn’t special!

Humphriescushion · 30/04/2020 05:31

I am very angry.
Angry at the untruths the govt keeps spouting.
Angry at being treated like an idiot
Angry at the lack of transparency
I lost total faith when the scientists started to hoodwink me as well.
Angry at the constant slogans and no information

And finally was hoping for some transparency yesterday when care homes were finally going to be counted - to find they are only counting the deaths that were tested! And forget about all those whose death certificate said covid! The gov says themselves that testing has been limited in care homes! Yes i am angry.

TheSkyWasDark · 30/04/2020 05:39

"Most of the world is in the same boat. What’s the point getting angry? The UK isn’t special!"

No, most of the west is in the same boat due to their total arrogance. They had weeks to prepare compared to Asian countries but still fucked up. Why is it that Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam and Singapore have managed to almost completely contain it? Korea was the second country to have an outbreak but with no lockdown have zero new domestic cases today. They even had an election two weeks ago ffs. Similar size and demographics to the UK, far higher population density and less than 300 deaths total.

The difference is, for one thing, that when the government fucks up, Koreans get pissed, they don't just go "oh well I'm just trying to keep smiling". They protest and they hold the leaders to account.

This century will see Asia dominating the world while the west bumbles about still thinking they're on top.

WanderingMilly · 30/04/2020 05:44

Why would we get angry? Anger is such a waste of emotion, and not the way to change things either. Who would we be angry at? This isn't the fault of individuals....the although the human race should think more carefully about the way we treat the world..eg. our use and abuse of animals, our over-crowded cities, our pollution, our inequalities. Many of those things contribute to the many factors which produce a pandemic of this nature, but anger will not solve it.

Quite apart from that, this is not the time for anger. We should be pulling together, across the whole world, to find solutions. We need to work together, even with those nations who have made mistakes. This is a new thing for all of us and no, we haven't always got it right but working together is what creates solutions and survival, not anger and blame.

If we go too far down the anger route, we only create hatred, and ultimately, war. Look what good (not!) that does anyone at all...

Mimishimi · 30/04/2020 05:46

Angry at who?

TheSkyWasDark · 30/04/2020 05:47

@WanderingMilly Anger can be very positive. If we all just shrug and go "it's fine" nothing ever changes and we never change.

Lindy2 · 30/04/2020 05:57

I don't really think being angry would help. How would it change anything?

There may well be a time for anger, but to me that isn't now.

My children don't need me raging and blaming right now. They need me positive, determined, hopeful, careful, efficient etc. Not angry.

maneandfeathers · 30/04/2020 06:16

I am not angry, what’s the point.

However I do hope this brings a cultural change to China in particular with regards to the way animals are treated and eaten. There’s no place for boiling animals alive and wet markets in this modern world and it’s time everybody stood together to stop it.

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 30/04/2020 06:16

You can think critically without being angry. It generally makes for better discussions.

eeyore228 · 30/04/2020 06:23

Who should we be furious with?? The whole world has been affected. This isn't just someone who said ’I think I'll pop.to the UK with this virus and give it to them’. It's global!!! There are people carrying it who don't know they have it, totally symptomless. So how would you propose preventing a global pandemic? It's not easy but when we are sat on our comfy couch we can afford to bitch and be furious because we would have done it better...with hindsight.

TheSkyWasDark · 30/04/2020 06:25

@eeyore plenty of countries have reacted far more quickly than the UK did. That's the point. The reaction of the UK government.

I don't think people there realise how long the government had to react. It was spreading for weeks and they were warned but did nothing. China, Korea, Italy and just...nothing?

That is unforgivable.

TheSkyWasDark · 30/04/2020 06:26

"So how would you propose preventing a global pandemic?"

Taiwan, Korea, Vietnam, NZ and Singapore have managed 🤷‍♀️

madcatladyforever · 30/04/2020 06:27

Anger is such a waste of space. I'd rather people just pulled together to get through this. And angry at what! A virus?
I'm more angry about the utter selfishness of people who gladly destroy their own planet for selfish ends other giving a damn about future generations.

ssd · 30/04/2020 06:38

@madcatladyforever, angry at this government that could have done so much more to prevent this happening. No forward planning, no actual listening to what was happening in the rest of the world.
If you want to live in a world where no one gets angry, no one holds our leaders to account when it's been documented how abysmal their leadership has been in all this, you go ahead. Some of us actually prefer to live in the real world.

No one is blaming a virus here, that's out of our hands. Who we vote for is very much in our hands.

derxa · 30/04/2020 06:40

why these virus’s seem to start there I'm guessing: big continent. Lots of varied wildlife. Contact between them and humans. Climate might be a contributing factor in the monsoon belt.
Did you watch the CH4 news item last night about 'wet markets' which are still going on. Cages of animals from all over the world including capybaras and bush babies. That's not 'lots of varied wildlife'. Disgusting.

Doryhunky · 30/04/2020 06:41

Unfortunately there is a combination of fear and guilt and an other to blame. The other is this virus which we are terrified of, the guilt is that we might have or will spread it. So we accept the curfew which removes the usual way of protesting by meeting and marching. The parliamentary opposition has until now been useless and parliament is shut down. Plus there is a polarised division in society between those who want freedom of movement and those who want lockdown to continue until there is a cure. But basically our basic human rights are being taken away and we are being impoverished which makes us easy to dictate to in a climate of fear and the blame is put on us rather than our leaders who failed to have enough ppe or testing and tracing.