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To wonder why people aren’t more angry?

520 replies

Rainbowb · 29/04/2020 23:09

Throughout this whole crisis I have really been surprised by the level of acceptance from everyone in this country of the whole situation. I know we haven’t had much choice in the decisions made and we’re probably a very polite nation as a whole but we have been so quick to accept the arrival of a deadly virus and drastic changes to our lives, seemingly without complaint. Is no-one out there demanding to know how on earth this was all able to happen? We’ve faced the huge loss of human life worldwide and it is continuing, surely we are all entitled to get angry and demand answers? I see grieving families, children missing out on being with other children and not having an education, families being separated indefinitely, people’s mental health suffering and vulnerable people potentially at risk and I feel so frustrated and angry. If we got fired up about climate change, why not this??

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KaronAVyrus · 29/04/2020 23:55

There’s no point getting angry. Sometimes incredibly shit things happen.

randomer · 29/04/2020 23:55

anger is pointless....yawn.

So sorry for all those who have lost family and friends.

The infrestructure of the country has been decimated and the cult of the individual prevails.

nothingcanhurtmewithmyeyesshut · 29/04/2020 23:55

What's the point? What purpose does anger serve right now?
Sure I'm angry, I'm absolutely furious. We KNEW about this. We watched China, Italy and Spain fail to contain it and we had time. Even if only a couple of weeks, that would have been enough time to contain it here. In my own opinion, if we had grounded flights, closed borders and implemented quarantine procedures for Brits returning home we could then have had few enough cases that a strict lockdown with widespread testing and contact tracing may well have resulted in a much lower mortality rate. We may not have been able to completely contain it but we could have controlled it much better than we did. But hindsight is 20:20. It's easy to say what we should have done. Probably not so easy to have been the guy calling the shots.

I want to know why no one was on top of this. What the fuck are we paying these people for? But right this minute isn't the time for being a baying mob. Once we're out of the woods and life is slowly returning to some kind of normality, then I think a lot of people will have a lot to answer for.

Lovely1a2b3c · 29/04/2020 23:56

It's a natural occurrence although I agree that if governments, including our own, had behaved differently then things could have turned out much better.

DdraigGoch · 29/04/2020 23:57

The British fo not really do "angry". Some nations are never happy unless they've got something to protest about (with a few Molotov cocktails thrown in for good measure) but the British just put the kettle on.

Dontcoughnearme · 29/04/2020 23:57

Honestly I'm surprised there haven't been riots, similar to those in London approx 10 years ago.

catinasplat · 29/04/2020 23:57

Yes, I am angry. I am really starting to resent that we have given up our civil liberties and in return we are being lied to at every turn and not given all the facts, or full explanations of how decisions are being made or a clear idea of how we will get out of this. It feels like a one way street right now.

Bouledeneige · 29/04/2020 23:57

We are at about day 60 of potentially a 540 to 720 day event. I think you are going to suffer horribly if you sustain your anger for all of the period of the virulence of this infection. We are only ankle deep so far and have no way of knowing what will pan out to be the best societal/political and medical response. Preparation was only chapter one. Treatment of first phase infection we are just getting through. Relaxation, and reinfection, winter reinfection and escalation. We have many more mountains to climb.

eaglejulesk · 29/04/2020 23:57

Our whole world, our customs and relationships, livelihoods, habits, even religions, all stopped without our input on the matter.

What did you want? A referendum maybe, or a postal vote. Perhaps a phone call to the whole nation? Meanwhile nothing is done and many more die while we are waiting for the results.

What do you think happens at any other time of crisis? We vote for a government to make these decisions on our behalf.

LilacTree1 · 29/04/2020 23:57

A lot of people are very angry with global governments.

I take comfort in remembering how the Ceauscescus ended up.

I am very puzzled by Boris Johnson’s u turn. One day we’ll find out what happened there.

ThrowingGoodAfterBad · 29/04/2020 23:58

I can do angry, where do you want me to start? With the excessive globalisation and misuse of nature? With the huge unchecked growth in our population? With the refusal to even try to grapple with these problems, and dismissal of them at every opportunity? I was angry at first about how this virus got here. It's excessive consumption by excessively rich people that has allowed it to spread to this opposite side of the world so quickly. Nothing was done to stop them because of concerns about impacting the economy, when only they would have been affected, so instead it's affecting all of us. Sadly no one gives a damn about any of this so getting angry will only raise my blood pressure.

Right now, like many I expect, my first concern is getting me and my family through this phase, in good health physically and economically. We're positioned more fortunately than some, I hope we can keep it. There'll be time for the usual ineffective lessons learned and brushed under the carpet later.

LilacTree1 · 30/04/2020 00:00

Dontcough “ Honestly I'm surprised there haven't been riots, similar to those in London approx 10 years ago.”

It’s Project Fear #2. They learned from the first one so it’s worked. Plus a lot of people, especially the ones in MN who tell us we’d never cope with a war, apparently never fell so ill before. And they think we’re weak!

LilacTree1 · 30/04/2020 00:01

“ With the huge unchecked growth in our population?”

Oh don’t get me started, particularly the MNers bleating about how hard lockdown is with a billion children.

chipsandgin · 30/04/2020 00:02

Get angry and demand answers from whom?

We already know the answers from the UK Government (I.e it’s a massive clusterfuck and we were ill prepared, complacent and far too late to lockdown, so answers sorted on that one..).

How though would this anger manifest itself and how would it solve anything - what is it you want to achieve? If the answers to those questions are it would make you feel unhappy and negative, it would solve nothing and achieve nothing then maybe it’s worth moving on from?

Pointless anger generally only upsets the person who is angry, which isn’t that appealing tbh, I’m too busy right now dealing with the fallout of this shitshow to waste my time being angry...

SonjaMorgan · 30/04/2020 00:02

I am angry at the government for not managing this crisis well. I am angry at the lies they spew and the way the press reports on certain topics.

I have lost my business and as it was a year old I have no income. I am using this time to be productive, learn new skills and I am looking at ways I can generate some additional income. So to others I am coping well and positive but under the surface I am seething.

sobeyondthehills · 30/04/2020 00:02

I am angry at this virus, but I am not angry at the government yet and I am not sure how I feel at the Chinese Government yet.

Ultimately, who the fuck would I be angry at other than a virus, which is doing exactly what it was born to do.

Legoandloldolls · 30/04/2020 00:02

There isn't anyone too blame though is there? You cant blame nature doing its thing.

Unless the Bill Gates theory is true. In which case there will be a inquest surely at some point.

I'm majorly pissed off with everything about this. Theres no upside, no positives. More people are displaying arsehole qualities than bring nice. But what I can change or control? Nothing. Tis just a shitty situation. All we can do is live it.

Naithnira · 30/04/2020 00:02

Sorry, are you calling for a war?
No. But I think we should stop trading with China. At least until they cease the savage practices that caused this situation.

catinasplat · 30/04/2020 00:03

@Jakadaal I am so, so sorry.

Icepinkeskimo · 30/04/2020 00:04

Tonight I am heartbroken and angry, I am fluctuating between the two. My friend passed away yesterday, she was admitted to hospital for something else was tested and was negative, a week later she was positive. Three days passed and she's gone. I will never see her again, listen to her wise advice or hear her laughter. Yes I'm angry, knowing that she leaves behind her husband to bring up two beautiful boys, and will never see them grow and flourish.

People tell me things will get back to 'normal' in time. No they won't, we are kidding ourselves or are naive to believe such nonsense.

This is down to the crucial fact that where this virus originated from, was blatantly hushed up and dumbed down by the powers that be. How dare they! Playing judge and jury with peoples lives.

Excuse me for my rant, but people shouldn't have to die this way, alone and despairing.
Yes I'm grief stricken, I want my friend back, she was such a wonderful lovely person. I know I'm not alone there are others out there tonight in the same boat as me. This could have all been avoided.

Sorry

BalanchineBallet · 30/04/2020 00:04

I’m fucking livid. Not at our government, I’m not demanding answers because I don’t think there are any right now, and I just done tend to be do that. In general I’m happy that some things don’t and won’t have answers.

As for the “just don’t be angry, it’s pointless”; do you lot all have the ability to turn all your emotions on and off like that? Wow. Please share!

I’m pissed off because my life is upside down and I can’t do the things I want to. I understand why, I’m not breaking the rules and I’m not screaming at people about it, but inside? I’m raging. Really angry. I just don’t direct it at any one person because I’m not looking to blame.

DippyAvocado · 30/04/2020 00:04

Anger is an appropriate feeling if someone has acted with intention. If I thought the government had created or was using this situation to control us in a certain way, I would certainly be angry. But lockdown is an economic disaster for them, so it's not as if they are gaining anything from the situation so I'm not angry.

There are plenty of deliberate choices the government made to ruin (poor) people's lives and their policy choices during austerity almost certainly caused people to die. I was definitely angry about that.

BalanchineBallet · 30/04/2020 00:05
  • just don’t tend to do that

I don’t know what happened to that sentence!

Theflushedzebra · 30/04/2020 00:06

It's a pandemic - "they" have known this has been coming for ages. We've had plans. We've had emergency training exercises that have not turned out well. We had a few false alarms - swine flu 2009 for example.

But the govt have always known that the biggest risk to the UK - the all time number one risk - was a pandemic. They thought it would be flu, but it's not, it's a SARS coronavirus. Which is even worse, because SARS is not flu. But I guess every govt never thought it would happen on their watch.

The fact that our govt pissed around celebrating brexit and then catching the virus themselves - rather than taking lessons from countries like Singapore and S Korea (who have experience of SARS) is something to be angry about. But I'm not sure how useful that anger is to anyone now.

I hope it all comes out in an Inquiry one day - how they watched the situation in Italy and Spain get worse and worse, but didn't act. Their horrific "herd immunity" plan. Allowing countless mass gatherings to happen, like the races, the football matches. The scandalous situation in care homes. So many scandals.

I'd like to be a New Zealander right now.

7Days · 30/04/2020 00:07

People hate not being in control.

For some it manifests in depression, for others anger. Most people plod through crises stoically, with occasional flashes of both. Hopefully not strong enough to lead them to do things they regret.

We are not in control. Neither is the Government, whichever government that happens to be, from democracy to dictatorship to nonexistent.

Nature is in control for this one. Theres only so much the decision makers can do, seeing as the facts are only emerging as we go along.