To wonder why people aren’t more angry?

[Rainbowb]

Throughout this whole crisis I have really been surprised by the level of acceptance from everyone in this country of the whole situation. I know we haven’t had much choice in the decisions made and we’re probably a very polite nation as a whole but we have been so quick to accept the arrival of a deadly virus and drastic changes to our lives, seemingly without complaint. Is no-one out there demanding to know how on earth this was all able to happen? We’ve faced the huge loss of human life worldwide and it is continuing, surely we are all entitled to get angry and demand answers? I see grieving families, children missing out on being with other children and not having an education, families being separated indefinitely, people’s mental health suffering and vulnerable people potentially at risk and I feel so frustrated and angry. If we got fired up about climate change, why not this??

People angry at China... what do you think China could have done to prevent the pandemic?

In february the whole world could have decided to hunker down for 3 weeks and starve the virus of hosts.... but shortsightedness and a lot of assumptions decided to focus only on China.... andhere we are!

A new deadly disease can jump hosts anywhere.... Sure, I would love to see people leaving wildlife alone. But to think that this couldn'happen anywhere else is silly. We have been warnedby scientists for years that this will be happening,it just happen to sprout on China this time.....

I'm absolutely raging, just very very quietly.

China only recently lifted a twenty year ban on imports of British beef because of BSE fears, so yes, if only the Chinese government had imposed similarly high standards at home;

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44629275

Not ‘let the people dictate the terms’
Er right. So an Italian style lockdown, with papers to be signed and policemen with guns would have been accepted in the UK? Dream on.
Can you even imagine the outcry over the right wing police state.

We’d have been lucky to get away with lockdown a week early. Trump got slated for banning planes from China as being racist yet with hindsight it seems reasonable.

Save anger for things that are coming up. How do we want lockdown to end , schools returning, shops re opening. Make your voice heard now not bitching about things that have been and gone.

Anger has a place if it’s targeted correctly & galvanises positive action. Otherwise it only serves to hurt & wound it’s owner.

Some people have been living like this all their lives. No access to fresh water. No access to education. No freedom of movement. No employment. No free speech. Death from curable diseases. Viruses much more deadly than Covid-19. How angry have you got about that? Take a look at human rights abuses across the world and you might not feel that ours have been compromised so dreadfully. We have freedoms and a standard of living that others can only dream of and if all this means we no longer take them for granted then that is progress.

you might as well be angry at gravity

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Anger is the most useless emotion and paralises rational thought. Since I started working in health in 1969 There has always been talk of a Pandemic . You may be surprised to know that it was always going to happen one day. Because of globalisation it was going to crack on through. A big one in 1918 "Spanish" Flu Ripped through the 28 year olds. I read a very interesting theory by an academic who has studies pandemic patterns. People die because in response to the virus as it progresses , their immune system goes into overdrive and causes the lung damage. It makes little sense that older people, whose immune response is waning, should have this over reaction. This guy hypothosises that a previous viral damage has kicked up this and in fact there was one 28 years before the 1918. People of 26 or 32 were not affected.
Anyway back to thr uselessness of anger. There has been ridiculous comparison of countries managing. You can only manage a countries population within the culture and nature of the people. In an opressive country you do things with an iron fist. In our country that would never be tolerated. This was carefully considered in our planning. Similarly allowing outside exercise ( only just beginning in Italy, where the carabinieri are fining people rightt left and centre) Some of these tactics were a trade off from managing the pandemic and managing the people. That boiling pot of anger you feel? Our governmenet planned it this way to manage that. It would have made not a jot of difference which party was in power. It would have to be this way. In the end the virus will do what it was always going to do, we can only dampen the edges

derxa all done after the event. My point was that if it had mutated into a communicable disease we would be who the world is blaming.

Anyway, it isn't going to be viral infections that kill us off as a species, not in the western world anyhow, it will be the fact that we have very few effective antibiotics left. We will be back to the dark ages when a scratch from a thorn could cause a massive infection, sepsis and death. Our entire understanding of medical intervention will change, the risk of post operative infection for example will mean the whole concept of surgery will change.

@RareCat -Fully agree with you!

I try to see anger as a spring board to action. If I am angry about something that I can change, I use the anger to propel me into action. If I am angry about something I Cannot change I acknowledge and accept my feelings and then let them pass because they do not serve me in any other way.

So an Italian style lockdown, with papers to be signed and policemen with guns would have been accepted in the UK? Dream on

No one suggested that. If you have to exaggerate to make your point, you know what that says

But ...

Cancelling Cheltenham
Closing or part closing borders
Earlier soft lockdown
Clarity in lockdown conditions
Special measures for nursing homes

All perfectly possible. All achieved by other countries. All would have helped contain the spread.

But no. The U.K. is on course to be the worst hit nation in Europe. It absolutely didn’t have to be like that, so quite why anyone is trying to say the government did an ok job is beyond me.

Seems like a much more reliable source Caspi

@CHIRIBAYA

I agree with you. Millions die of malaria every year in sub-Saharan Africa, the majority being children under 5. Very little is ever said about that. We only get angry when we feel that our own way of life is under threat.

@Caspi

I took one look at that Digital News, David Icke is front page so no thank you

I wonder how many of the angry people on this thread will do something with their anger other than complain on SM and to their friends.
I hope people will write to their MPs; write to newspapers; demand a public enquiry; write to the PM and Health Secretary.

we’re probably a very polite nation as a whole but we have been so quick to accept the arrival of a deadly virus and drastic changes to our lives

But this was exactly what was needed to try and contain it.

I'm angry with the government for leaving it too long.
I'm angry with the lack of PPE for health professionals.
I'm angry with China for putting the world at such risk and lying about it.

But right now we need to accept that this virus is here and stay at home in order to help contain it. Anger isn't going to make this lockdown any easier.

For what it's worth, I'm actually enjoying this somewhat different pace of life.

Why would anyone be angry?
People voted in a bumbling buffoon based in empty promises and catchphrases. They have a record of underfunding the NHS and you can look up their voting record in pay rises for nurses. Austerity has killed 1000s of people and yet the Tories support it as do their supporters.
So it should come as no shock to anyone that the NHSis needed, that Boris and the government have no issue killing people, that Boris is buffoon enough to shake hands with people with a virus and then brag about doing so and that the Government is unable to deliver simple promise like getting tests sorted.

It should also not shock anyone when the true death figures are discovered to be 1000s and 1000s higher and that they've just left Covid / Corona off the death certificate.

Because the vast majority of people are apathetic and easily distracted.

They've been too busy clapping and banging pots to absorb or question what is happening around them. No powers of analysis just blah social media. Anger on its own isn't much use I agree but if they're going to be easily sedated with poxy rainbows they're not going to have room to be angry about 13 year olds dying all alone or corporations with billions binning their staff. They'll pay the price though for a long time to come.

People seem to be resigned to it somehow, and as with many things, sheep like in behaviour.
What the fuck does that mean? What is "sheep like" about doing the right thing to try not spread the fucker around?

It surprises me in a way that no-one has started riots at the loss of freedom, income, human rights. Instead of anger it is mostly compliance and minor rule breaking.

It doesn't surprise me, because most people are decent human beings. Starting a fucking riot now would be just about the most stupid wank-faced idea ever.

I am very fucking angry - angry that some ignorant twats think doing something decent in societal terms instead of routing like a twat makes me a "sheep".

I’ve just looked at the death figures. The U.K. is the second worst in Europe, just a smidge behind Italy.

But considering the underreporting of deaths in the UK, it’s at least 10,000 higher realistically.

It’s absolutely shocking, given the additional warning the U.K. had.

Monkey did you not see all the labour supporters leaving by the droves because of the state of the then labour government? Labour lost because they were too arrogant to see they were losing voters - myself included. I only hope Keir swings it back again. Your obviously still part of the problem if you can’t admit that.

There would have been the same issues and much dithering of Corbyn. In fact I think he would have probably hidden along with the rest of them.

So yeah I’m angry that the labour government were so beyond capable of dealing with issues we ended up with a Tory government

I’m surprised people are still passing that idea about it escaping from a lab around. It’s been investigated and the markers aren’t there. Why are people more willing to believe deliberate agency by humans than a quite regular occurrence of biology?? There still is a whole planet beyond humans out there, if we don’t destroy it.

I’m surprised people are still passing that idea about it escaping from a lab around. It’s been investigated and the markers aren’t there

Well, there are two scenarios. Scientists are pretty sure the virus wasn't bioengineered, and almost everyone accepts that, from what I've seen. But the lab in Wuhan WAS studying coronaviruses in bats and US officials HAD previously complained about poor safety procedures there. The implication is that they were responsible for a leakage of the (natural!) virus through negligence.

There was a poster around who seemed to know something about China and said these “wet markets” aren’t quite the disgusting filthy germ haven we picture here. They’re just markets, used mostly by poorer people, which include regular eating animals for the most part, and were very well regulated. She said the exotic wildlife was only eaten by the rich. I hope all this will get properly investigated and remembered in further dealings with China rather than perpetrate some ill-informed demagogic knee-jerk injustices with potentially bad consequences against other ordinary people around the world.