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AIBU?

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for thinking Bojo shouldn't take paternity leave

146 replies

Crunchymum · 29/04/2020 13:25

I caveat by saying I don't know if he will or not!!!

Given the current situation, I think his paternity leave needs to wait

AIBU?

OP posts:

Janaih · 29/04/2020 18:48

If that baby is premature I'll burn a £50 note in front of a homeless person.

JamieLeeCurtains · 29/04/2020 18:56

Ah, the conception deception

Satonloo · 29/04/2020 18:56

I think they were vague on the date as he was still married .

Mischance · 29/04/2020 18:59

I am sure they can afford any help that might be needed - he should go to work. Carrie will be yesterday's news as far as he is concerned before too long.

selfisolatingsince2007 · 29/04/2020 21:06

Well safe to say he isn't but he has every right to. Its a massive time in anyone's life, and he's just had a near death experience (for anyone about to jump in with the "he was faking it" conspiracy.. plz don't).

I think the baby was born quite early? Did they say she was due early summer? I don't class April as early summer.

User202004 · 29/04/2020 21:21

Well safe to say he isn't but he has every right to. Its a massive time in anyone's life

Perhaps it is a big moment in his life (let's pretend anyway...) but he runs a country of 70 million people and our society is being pummelled by a pandemic, those lives trump this moment in his life. I can't believe how sheltered some people are that they genuinely think someone in his position has a "right" to paternity leave. You do realise thousands of men are not able to take paternity leave for much more banal reasons than this, even outside of a pandemic, but plenty more key workers will not be taking it now.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/04/2020 23:08

I feel a bit sorry for Carrie. She's just had a baby and her husband has to go back to work.

Boris isn't her husband.

Kinneddar · 29/04/2020 23:18

Carrie will just have to suck it up

Well arent you a charmer!!

At the end of the day whatever the opinion on Boris shes just given birth to her first baby, weeks after her partner was very ill. Shes no different to other brand new mums. Anywhere else on here shed be said to be within her right to expect her partner to be there for her over the coming weeks. I'm.sure shell be aware he cant take paternity leave.

Saying she needs to suck it up is a horrible thing to say

SchadenfreudePersonified · 29/04/2020 23:34

Saying she needs to suck it up is a horrible thing to say

Women whose husbands are in the armed forces serving in war zones have to "suck it up".

Bojo insists on describing this as a war - not that he's on the frontline, except when he stupidly insisted on shaking hands with covid patients.

Viviennemary · 29/04/2020 23:36

He is taking leave at a later date. A good choice under the circumstances.

Kinneddar · 30/04/2020 00:03

Women whose husbands are in the armed forces serving in war zones have to "suck it up

I dont think anyone on here would dream of suggesting the wife of a military person they should suck it up. It just seems a very harsh unsympathetic way to put it

Fallsballs · 30/04/2020 00:54

It seems Johnson tires of women once they give birth. Anyway I don’t think it matters if he takes 2 weeks off or two years as he has a nice healthy bunch of arseholes such as Cummings doing the dirty work.

DressingGownofDoom · 30/04/2020 01:05

'Shouldn't we just be glad mum and baby are well?'

No, not really, more concerned with the health of the entire UK population to be honest.

Antipodeancousin · 30/04/2020 01:16

I can’t imagine Boris would be supporting his partner with night feeds, changing nappies, cleaning etc. They will likely have paid help.
So no, I don’t think he should be taking paternity leave, especially at this point in time.

Brefugee · 30/04/2020 08:08

I feel a bit sorry for Carrie. She's just had a baby and her husband has to go back to work. She can't have any family or friends round, that has to be tough especially given what she's already been through

I don't. I mean no more than i would for any woman who is with a complete twat of a man who fathers children at the drop of a hat with women he's not married to while being married to someone else.

Her choice in partner, she has to live with that decision. It's not ever been a secret that he's a philandering fucker, is it?

And I can not believe that she will be overly inconvenienced by having a baby by doing things like all the cooking, cleaning, shopping etc etc that most of us do. So - meh. I hope she's well and i hope the baby is fine. Beyond that - meh.

Umnoway · 30/04/2020 08:13

Gotta feel sorry for his partner although she definitely knew how much of a philandering idiot he was when she chose to shack up and procreate with him. I did laugh when I saw the news reports ‘this is Miss Symonds’ first child whereas Mr Johnson already has ‘at least’ five children’. At least five, nobody knows the true figure.

She had covid at the same time as him so was nine months pregnant struggling with the illness plus him being stuck almost dying from it in hospital. Now she’s given birth and he’s not going to spend much time with her. Hopefully she’s allowed some family support.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 30/04/2020 10:39

I dont think anyone on here would dream of suggesting the wife of a military person they should suck it up. It just seems a very harsh unsympathetic way to put it

It isn't voiced. It's expected.

mumsmas1 · 30/04/2020 15:01

For Gods sake evryone get real about BJ he is a certified self serving arsehole and has by concentrating everyone on Brexit (which he supported for his own and his pals financial betterment and hoodwinked 50% of the country to vote for it) left us with the third worst death count of the Virus IN THE WORLD and has been totally useless throughout the pandemic joking about it calling it Operation Last Gasp goes and gets it himself and nearly dies because hes unfit and overweight and then ponces about pretending hes Churchill, we need a new PROPER leader so he can fuck off on paternity leave as far as I am concerned

Rosebel · 30/04/2020 16:16

Regardless of how you feel, this is a new mum and baby. I can't believe how nasty people are. I don't particularly like Boris and I didn't vote for him but if you honestly think any other party would have done things differently you are mistaken. He's just been in hospital and then his partner has a baby and people are still moaning.
He should be able to take his paternity leave but has chosen not to. So what are you complaining about?
I bet if someone had posted on here about her partner nearly dying and then not being able to take paternity leave you wouldn't say just suck it up. Well I hope you wouldn't but judging by the nasty replies on here maybe you would.

mumsmas1 · 30/04/2020 17:15

@Devlesko
spot on

Asdf12345 · 30/04/2020 17:19

He is damned either way. If he doesn’t take it people will complain it undermines paternity leave and sets the example that men should work whilst women do the childcare, if he does take it people will complain he is abandoning his post.

Personally I think he should defer then quietly forget about it to avoid making too obvious a statement that work is more important.

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