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To feel rage

237 replies

Tuzz · 26/04/2020 17:18

To feel rage with my partner and father of 2 DS 5 & 7. we all live together. Neither of us is working at the moment.
I wake up and my mind flicks the list of jobs I need to do. It is all usual stuff. 1st world problems. Get up, feed kids, feed dogs, tidy up kitchen - it is never done the night before, hang out washing, vacuum floors, on week days do home school ( I was a teacher so this comes easily to me) cook lunch, clear lunch, walk dogs and kids, mostly make kids tea, bath them read to them and put them to bed. Repeat.
You might be asking where is DP in all of this? He has mental health issues. He is depressed. His day starts when I bring him tea. He wakes up and uses his phone to check Twitter to try to “engage with the world” his words. After an hour he might come downstairs and then goes with a camera into the garden to take photos of spring emerging, this gives him huge pleasure. He will come back in tweet his pictures. Maybe start the doing some gardening. After lunch he usually chooses to go back into the garden and will be there until 6pm. He then goes back on his phone again to keep in touch with the world. Once the kids are asleep either he or I will cook our dinner. I never have the energy to tidy up. He never ever does.
My rage is that he seems only to do the things that give him pleasure, that ease his depression and things are never with the kids or helpful to living in a home with 4 people. I have to do everything else.
lately it seems to me every suggestion he makes I have to do because if I don’t he says I am not supporting him or helping his depression. This morning he showered and shaved. Then announced he wanted to have his hair cut. I was mid cleaning of the kitchen so I stopped and cut his hair. Then had to clean it all up while he went on twitter. I blew my top. Then he close to tears told me how unsupportive I was being. I know he is ill but I feel so alone and now really angry. Am I being unreasonable and need a slap? Or a hug and a big drink?

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FeedMeSantiago · 28/04/2020 08:56

You need to call Women's Aid OP. They can advise you. If necessary you can take the DC into a refuge, if you're not able to go to your parents or friends or family. Leaving an abusive partner during lockdown is permitted.

It is extremely unlikely that a court would grant custody to a father who drinks 2 bottles of wine a day.

In the meantime keep your cards to your chest. Start getting your ducks in a row. Make copies of key documents like any bank statements of his or pay slips so you can show how much he earns. As a PP said, there are likely to be receipts for all the wine he's drinking somewhere.

Is his GP aware of his alcoholism? If not, you can contact the GP to express your concerns about his drinking. They won't discuss it with you, but they will listen (I have an alcoholic in the family and have had to do this myself). Speak to your own GP about the abuse that you are suffering at his hands - that he gaslights you, that he gives you the silent treatment, and punishes you further by also giving the DC the silent treatment when he is annoyed with you. Help to build a picture of what is going on and his abuse.

The most important thing is that you get out. Worry about the rest later - there will be support with benefits etc. if needed and Women's Aid can advise on your rights to move further away for work within the Scottish legal system.

SamSeabornforPresident · 28/04/2020 09:37

He doesn't want the children. What the hell would he do with them? Kids are hard work. He just wants to scare you into staying.

springydaff · 28/04/2020 10:36

Free legal advice - Rights of Women

I know you're busy but please try to read this - Lundy Bancroft's seminal book about domestic abuse in all its forms, Why Does He Do That? I've linked it in pdf .

How interesting you're stranded on an island with no money or car, whereas he has both. Whose idea was it to live in this isolated place?

I know this is difficult to face but men like this loathe women and make it their life's work to humiliate and train them, like dogs, to serve and obey. He is a monster to have used 'depression' to control you when in fact he is just an alcoholic abuser who is living the life of Riley with his subservient servant meekly pandering to his every need. That's how he's always wanted it.

Don't feel bad. You and me both - and millions of others - have got caught in a situation like this. They exploit our kindness and goodness.

Take care. Don't let him know what you're planning. Let the GP know what is happening so its on record.

Don't feel bad about him btw: he is a fake. The 'depression' is fake. He may turn on the tears etc etc to get you to feel sorry for him. Don't fall for it xx

springydaff · 28/04/2020 10:38

BTW you feel rage because you know in your gut you're being conned

shootmenow2020 · 28/04/2020 10:47

He sounds like an absolute Cunt. How would the kids be better off with him he doesn't even mind them.

Can you reach out to anyone in your community for help? Is there a Scottish version of women's aid?

billy1966 · 28/04/2020 10:55

Ha!

He wants the children.

He does nothing for them now.

He's not going to get those children.

Abusive, manipulative threat, that men use to keep women in place.

He's scum.

Reach out for support through the links provided above.
Flowers

SamSeabornforPresident · 28/04/2020 10:58

womensaid.scot/

MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously · 28/04/2020 11:01

I'd have fucking murdered him by now. Can you get him to leave?

Bristolbitsandbobs · 28/04/2020 11:09

He sounds like an absolute Cunt

Lucid and accurate.

springydaff · 28/04/2020 11:16

BTW we don't know for certain op is in Scotland.

JohnFinlaysNewTeeth · 28/04/2020 11:18

The op said “Can I even take the kids out of Scotland” @springydaff

HannaYeah · 28/04/2020 12:01

Saying he would keep the children is a complete bluff. He won’t even do the first thing for them. He’s now expressed that he thinks having a job is all he’s required to do. He’s certainly not going to put in the energy to feed them and take care of them without you there.

springydaff · 28/04/2020 12:12

Ah OK, missed that. Thanks John

Meadows20 · 28/04/2020 12:26

I'm the main earner, does that mean I can shirk my parental and household responsibilities when my baby is born 🤔 don't think so somehow...what horrible, horrendous misogyny he's spouting.

You're his partner and the mother of his children, not the paid housekeep?

Try to find to out your rights and see if there's any support on the island for you?

tensmum1964 · 28/04/2020 13:04

A lot of men use the threat of keeping the children. Its as old as the hills. Call his bluff, tell him he can keep the kids and you will look for somewhere for you. In the meantime look for somewhere for you and your children.

Livpool · 28/04/2020 13:10

I was diagnosed with PND and anxiety. I was prescribed antidepressants, which I am still on (now a lower dose) and my DS is 4.

I don't see the issue with taking any medication long term, if it makes you better. I have asthma and take tablets and inhalers daily. I have never thought to wean myself off them - it's the same thing surely

Livpool · 28/04/2020 13:15

Also OP LTB - he is selfish and an alcoholic. Depression or not - he is useless as a partner and a father

Matildalamp · 28/04/2020 14:05

I'd be interested to know which Scottish island you live on, although I realise you can't say. But Women's Aid are still providing support in Scotland at the moment. You need to contact your local council and get out of that house. This man is abusing you, I don't know if things were better at the beginning of your relationship, but now it's abuse. Addiction is an illness, but YOU ARE NOT under any obligation to support your partner through it. You really aren't, that may sound harsh, but addicts can be manipulative liars, you can't help, unless they are prepared to get help. And he is far from that. You really, really need to get out Flowers

CharlotteCollinsneeLucas · 28/04/2020 14:05

Call his bluff, tell him he can keep the kids and you will look for somewhere for you. In the meantime look for somewhere for you and your children.

Yeah, no. First thing he'd do would be to tell the children what she'd said. He doesn't care which of the lowly creatures in his house get hurt as long as he, the master, is in his rightful place. Hmm Don't try to fight someone who's happy to hurt people - they'll always find a way to win.

justanotherneighinparadise · 28/04/2020 14:06

Keep that rage in your belly as it will help you.

Play the cunt at his own game. Agree to separate but obviously you can’t afford two houses at the moment as you need to find employment first. So you can start with 50% access to the children as that’s the starting point nowadays. Arrange with him which days he has dole charge of the children and house and you will happily make yourself busy elsewhere in the house/garden. Do you have a spare room? Obviously this would work far better if you could retreat to your own room but even if you can’t I would do my upmost to stop doing anything for the prick and try my damnest to make him step up with the kids/house.

justanotherneighinparadise · 28/04/2020 14:07

*sole

BumbleBeee69 · 28/04/2020 14:21

I'd be interested to know which Scottish island you live on, although I realise you can't say. But Women's Aid are still providing support in Scotland at the moment. You need to contact your local council and get out of that house. This man is abusing you, I don't know if things were better at the beginning of your relationship, but now it's abuse. Addiction is an illness, but YOU ARE NOT under any obligation to support your partner through it. You really aren't, that may sound harsh, but addicts can be manipulative liars, you can't help, unless they are prepared to get help. And he is far from that. You really, really need to get out

Absolutely Flowers

ajs88 · 28/04/2020 14:27

Just to agree with everyone about calling women's services. You may feel un-entitled to do so because he hasn't hit you, but a lot of what you've described is abuse: www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/

You and your children are trapped in the house with an abusive alcoholic, you are without family, money or transport, you have no support, means to leave or place to go, and he is currently threatening to kick you out if you do not comply with him and keep your children from you.

springydaff · 28/04/2020 15:25

Yes, this constitutes domestic abuse, big time. Stuck in the sticks, with an ocean surrounding you, no money, no car. That's for starters. Very similar to the domestic abuse in my marriage (incidentally, at the Women's Aid support group I attended, many women said they'd rather be hit any day than the emotional/financial etc abuse I was experiencing. Just saying what they said, folks. It took me an age to go for help because I didn't think I was being abused because I wasn't being hit).

AnotherEmma · 28/04/2020 22:22

Women's Aid Scotland
Citizens Advice Scotland

Please contact them, they'll be able to advise on your options. You do have options.

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