To ask whether you would support a further lockdown?

[lola777]

Posting here simply as I don't know if voting can be enabled outside AIBU.

Vote yes- You would support further lockdown of this extent
Vote no- You would not support a lockdown of this extent after the current lockdown period

Personally, I would be happy for restrictions to slowly be lifted after this. Amongst my friends, I feel I am in the majority.

Lockdown is partly to protect the NHS, the one most of us revere and cherish and many people have been clapping and cheering for every week. It’s also partly to save the lives of people who just don’t need to die. I’m not sure if everyone has been living under a rock but more than 20,000 people have died in less than two months in the U.K. alone, 20,000 people who didn’t actually have to die. Not all of them were old and ‘going to die’ anyway, some were children.

Me and my family have all been isolating for weeks, I just want to see them, I have no urge to rush to shops like I know so many others will.

There have been protests in the USA........and some of those protestors have died from covid

Alternative yep agree with you.

I agree, through my own stupidity, i will not put more pressure on the NHS by going to the hospital WHEN i catch covid-19

Anyway, how would you know whether you caught Covid from an 'allowed' activity (eg. Going to the supermarket) or a 'forbidden' activity (eg. Going to a BBQ?)

Alternative “ So, people are now advocating for herd immunity? Even though they were shouting down the government a few weeks ago for suggesting it?”

I was always for herd immunity. If no immunity, then live and die with the virus. Stay home for those who want to, but the taxpayer shouldn’t be hit hard for that. I feel so sorry for the 20somethings right now.

we need to learn to live with it and accept new practices like regular hand washing, distancing in crowded places etc

People didn't do that when asked which is why we moved onto a lockdown. What makes you think they'll do it now??

No I won't. I need to get back to work.

I can live with some social distancing but the economic and mental health impact is going to do far more long term damage.

It’s not like MN is one person 🤔

but by going out early you force others to stay indoors much longer, because you can't guarantee you won't give the virus to other people

But no on can guarantee this, even with the current lock down. A person could go to work, or to the supermarket tomorrow without realizing they are asymptomatic.

Yes I'd definitely support it and I think it need to be a much quicker lockdown next time. If we had done it earlier this time we may have stamped it out a bit quicker.

Do you mean the same for longer? or the increasing the intensity of the current soft lockdown to the full lockdown that's been implemented in some other countries?

The most public calls for an end to restrictions and giving up on measures to control the spread are largely coming from the bored-and-entitled, e.g. Allison Pearson who's today used her column to completely reverse her earlier position on the subject.

What's worrying is that there's still so much unknown about this disease:

• WHO making it clear that there's no compelling evidence of immunity
• evidence from the USA that mild infections are leading to strokes in otherwise healthy people in their 30s and 40s with no underlying comorbidity.

I’m not sure if everyone has been living under a rock but more than 20,000 people have died in less than two months in the U.K. alone, 20,000 people who didn’t actually have to die.

Well, I'm sorry but you are going to have to take that up with the virus and not with the government.

Unless you are one of these people who think that we can avoid anyone dying from a novel virus by locking down a country and closing all the borders until... Well, when?

'People' say all kinds of different things ...or maybe different people say different things?

I didn't agree with herd immunity but once you start down that path it's a bit pathetic to stop, too late, and try and change course. Too late. Not my chosen plan of action but there we go.

It's my parents choice if they meet with us or not. I'm not encouraging it but not discouraging it either. They are adults, they don't need me babying them

@Frompcat

Because I'm saying as much as possible people should be limiting their movements for the next few months, and not go on playdates? There is support out there for mental health and domestic violence; helplines, video counselling, refuges are still open. Again, it's not ideal, but in current situation nothing is unfortunately.

I would totally support it. I don't think we are in a place to loosen it.

Yes I'd definitely support it and I think it need to be a much quicker lockdown next time. If we had done it earlier this time we may have stamped it out a bit quicker.

What do you mean by 'stamped it out' exactly? You do realise that this will be impossible until we have a vaccine (if we ever get one?) Are people still not getting this?!

I haven't voted because it really isn't about what any of us feel. We need to see how far the case numbers have dropped and whether the facilities for a rigorous track and trace system are in place as we come towards the end of this period of lockdown. If case numbers are low enough and the track and trace is up and running we can slowly start to lift the lockdown. If not, we really shouldn't unless we want to see another peak and lockdown like this one in another couple of months.

There is support out there for mental health and domestic violence; helplines, video counselling, refuges are still open.

I work in two of the above services you mention, and I can tell you that right now requests are through the roof and actual help we can provide is nil. We don't have enough funding in normal circumstances, let alone now.

Smile “ Whatcha gonna do?”

Imma confiscate your hula hoops.

No - I think a continued lockdown for the vulnerable and fairly rapid lifting for everyone else. You have a very very small chance of dying for corona if you are not in an at risk group and if it was lifted, those who are actually at risk would be able to access more services without other locked in people competing for them. I think the vulnerable should stay in some sort of lockdown until a vaccine or treatment but everyone else should get back to living as normal (or at least have the option to).

My grandfather made a good point - he is in his 80s and he has had a few problems health wise but plays bowls, has loads of pals, likes a pint. Not seen him for 6 weeks and took him some meat I got in a delivery, fresh fruit and some newspapers yesterday. He was saying he is abiding by all the rules, only been out once when he ran out of milk and didn’t want to bother anyone, but he doesn’t see the point of him living the rest of his foreseeable future isolated and not able to enjoy the company of a family he has raised and are his pride and joy. Basically saying what’s the point in being scared for your life from the virus when he has lived his life and it’s now a question of quality over quantity. Can’t really see how he’s wrong tbh. The same was pretty much said by a palliative nurse on that big night in program - she opened her cancer day Centre so a man and wife and their little girl could essentially have their last day together and the wife was in hosp with terminal cancer and the family couldn’t visit due to covid. She said that to them, the pay off of seeing her and the time they had together; outweighed the risk.

No I would not support it. I think it's doing massive harm to so many people,e.g. being cut off from their families,operations being cancelled,people afraid to report new health problems for fear of being 'a nuisance'. I think the fall out from this will in terms of people's mental and physical health will be as much as from the virus itself. Not to mention the damage being done to the economy,small businesses going bust,thousands of people losing their jobs etc.