To ask whether you would support a further lockdown?

[lola777]

Posting here simply as I don't know if voting can be enabled outside AIBU.

Vote yes- You would support further lockdown of this extent
Vote no- You would not support a lockdown of this extent after the current lockdown period

Personally, I would be happy for restrictions to slowly be lifted after this. Amongst my friends, I feel I am in the majority.

I think I might have it! The NHS England chart states the DATE of death so you can see how we are doing and the peak was 7 April. So why on earth do they keep announcing those daily death figures....

Please, someone, I have got that right haven’t I........

One thing I don’t understand- and bear in mind I myself am in the vulnerable group:

A lot of people have said lockdown shouldn’t end because it’s not fair to have the vulnerable locked away. However, I don’t understand this line.

I am vulnerable and currently locked away like everyone else. When lockdown ends, I will still be locked away, regardless of what low risk people end up doing. I don’t see how this logic works.

The fact is I will be doing extended social distancing until a vaccine- whether the rest of the country stays inside won’t impact that. People staying indoors doesn’t magically mean I am suddenly less vulnerable.

Once the cases are reduced, I don’t see why restrictions can’t be reduced a little. I may return to work if I consider it safe and money gets too tight, but I fully accept that I have to be more careful until there’s a vaccine, and I don’t expect low risk people to suffer long term when the fact is I will have to look after my own health.

We can certainly do social distance as it will largely be an extension and we have a big house. Builder says all his suppliers have closed though

Bathroom that’s my understanding.

• of the figures I mean!

Bathroom12345 he needs to contact them again - lots have opened for deliveries or non contact collection in the last week or so. And, yes, it's surprising that journalists aren't drilling into the numbers more. Barracker's been doing it for weeks (amongst others) on the dailymail.co.uk numbers threads.

Hehehe! Daily numbers threads!

No I would not support a further lockdown. I don’t support this one,although I have been self isolating for 6 weeks now.I only go out to walk my dog once a day.All food being delivered.

There are no dentists,cancer patients not being seen,so many people will never go back to their previous jobs,because the job is no longer there.

It has been handled atrociously by the Government ,they have known for years a Pandemic was on the way,they should have had everything in place,not running around like headless chickens,searching for PPE,rushing to open new hospitals,the list is endless.

Cannot wait to get back to my daily swim.

Im not into the lockdown or a recession but im unto a global pandemic even less. The lockdown is temporary...it will pass.
I am not bored as i have shit loads of work/ study/ art to do....and im anti social anyway.

The fact is I will be doing extended social distancing until a vaccine- whether the rest of the country stays inside won’t impact that. People staying indoors doesn’t magically mean I am suddenly less vulnerable.

You and many others on this thread are missing the point.
You might be isolating even once lockdown is lifted but if others like a plumber, delivery driver, mail man, family/friends, careers, etc are not on lockdown anymore they will be coming into contact with more people. This means they have a higher chance of carrying the virus to you. You can isolate all you like but if others don't isolate then its pretty pointless unless you can guarantee you will not need to have any deliveries, tradesmen, family contact.

Sure, I don't really mind it tbh.

"We need to follow Sweden. A %6 drop in GDP will kill more than letting the virus run wild "

That 6% claim is nonsense.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/25/there-is-no-trade-off-between-the-economy-and-health

@Chillicheese123

AmelieTaylor Christ have a wine and chill out, it’s not that deep

You were the one chasing me around telling me that suggesting people got taken to hospital before the couldn't speak & had blue lips was ridiculous FFS.

You might not think it's 'deep' but many of us find friends & family dying pretty 'deep'

If you just want to just get drunk & mess about, go post about an airhead Sleb thread, not a thread about people dying.

If there isn't a huge decrease in death's while the UK is on soft lockdown UK residents will be stopped travelling to other countries.

@Molliemoo10

I understand what you mean, completely. I guess my point is that as the entire country cannot be on lockdown as we are now until a vaccine is found, I have accepted that at some point I will be at higher risk to exposure. So in my mind, whether this happens tomorrow, in three weeks or six weeks makes no difference, as long as the NHS is coping.

My main hope is that cases will go down enough so contact tracing can happen- This would reduce transmission, whilst people can still go outside. If I knew I could somewhat effectively track where the virus is, I’d feel safer.

Yes I would.

If they continue lockdown or not ill be going to visit my sister and my parents. We've all been isolating for over a month now, no underlying conditions and no symptoms. Mental health is important too and I'm very much struggling with mine. I was on the list for more psychotherapy to deal with ptsd but it's been cancelled so I'm totally left to my own devices with just medication to rely on. I can't practice any of my usual self care to manage it by myself because i am not allowed to do any of the things i need to do. I'm keeping my head above water but for how long?

I absolutely agree chewchew. This not being allowed to visit close family is awful. That needs to be lifted and left at people's discretion. I hope things improve for you soon.

Thank you viviennemary

Without a clear plan clearly communicated and sufficient testing and tracing etc we need to maintain the lockdown as far as possible. Unfortunately fuck knows when this government will get any sort of competent grip on the situation.

Some restrictions could be eased. Visiting family to sit in the garden well spaced or talk through the window for 20 mins not a bbq with all your cousins etc.

Mostly I dont want to be going to work unnecessarily. I can do 98% of my work from home. Buses are getting busier round here and I have to get bus or tube to work and those enclosed spaces would not feel safe to me. They should be left to those who cannot work from home. Those of us who can wfh should to protect those who cant.

Until we see consistently falling death figures I think to relax the rules would be foolish. I know it's tough for everyone, but it's not as tough as people dying in even greater numbers.

The economy can be rebuilt, lost lives can't.

Of course the real problem is the incompetence which has led to there not being any testing or contact tracers organised to ensure that any subsequent cases are identified quickly and their contacts traced to ensure they isolate. Without that a relaxation won't likely be possible, which means that the government incompetence as well as killing extra via late lockdown, now also kills other non-covid people via late relaxation

It has been an absolute shitshow from start to finish. And that goes righ back to Hunt's decision, back in 2016 or whenever it was, not to follow the recommendations that came out of a desktop pandemic planning exercise, namely to increase the stocks of PPE carried by the NHS.

We can't even rely on the death figures to be accurate, ffs, because they're not doing enough testing or recording many deaths that occur in the community.

Given how much technology we have nowadays to keep in touch, things could be much harder.

Leaving to people s discretion won’t work. There are already plenty looking for loopholes around the rules without giving free reign to visit family etc.

I genuinely don;t know. Glad I don;t have to make that decision.

People keep talking about it potentially being ok to visit family. But there seems to be an expectation that family are local. My nearest family are 200 miles away. So I'd have to make a "non-essential car journey" to see them. Or would only people who have stayed geographically close to their families be allowed to see them?

In a way, though, it's an irrelevant question, as I will be going to see them whatever the "rules" say, once this current three-week period is over.

It's a great mistake that there has been no clear direction in the past fortnight. What will likely happen now is that a critical mass of people (including me) will think: "sod this", and will consider lockdown to be over anyway - for them, at any rate. However, this will be completely uncontrolled, and its results will be unpredictable.