Some people enjoy patronising and depressing others

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Clearly everyone is having a different experience of the current situation. It seems to me from the posts here and elsewhere that MN is full of people searching for threads from people either asking genuinely when others think the restrictions may be reduced, or people expressing mental or emotional.distress due to being locked away, sometimes alone. The pattern is the OP posts, there are a couple of sympathetic/in the case of lockdown speculation dovish opinions then the Depressor swoops, usually with a formulation along the lines of:
If you think these restrictions will be lifted anytime soon you are a naïve fool. Christmas will be cancelled and things will never fully return to normal

In the threads expressing mental distress their standard formulation is a variety of:
FFS pull yourselves together. It's been (insert number) weeks, how the F do you think people coped in the war the. All you are being asked to do is stay in and watch Netflix

There seems to be a remarkably large number of people among this cohort who claim grandparental involvement in WW1/2 and have a partner/sibling serving as a front line NHS worker. These depressors seem to scour MN looking to pounce on people expressing povs like the above.

On God yes the Dementors - I call them the Sackcloth and Ashes crowd because I'm convinced they'd be happier if we were all sitting in caves for the rest of our lives. I dared to post recently that we'd rebooked our cruise, that we're meant to be on at the moment for next year. In various degrees of hysteria I was ' mad if I thought we'd be going anywhere abroad in the next 18 months, fucking irresponsible to even think of going abroad because I'd be in quarantine when I got there and quarantine when I got home, or cruise ships were floating council estates anyway '. People have gone absolutely batshit over this.

I’ve already seen people praying for December to be locked down

Gosh yes... the Christmas haters would love this. They can impose their seasonal misery on everyone then! Can you just imagine?

It’ll be all ‘how can you even contemplate celebrating Christmas when PEOPLE ARE DYING?!!’

I've just seen them being called "the disgusted from Tunbridge Wells brigade"-made me chuckle! (Have a read of the B&Q thread if you want a laugh)

@psychomath You're spot on. It's this reasoning that i've seen so, so, often on MN the last few weeks.

My neighbours are selfish fuckers and people will die because e.g it was their birthday and their GDCs dropped some presents on the doorstep during a walk and waved from the pavement.

MY house, we haven't left for weeks and I'd LOVE for my Grandkids to wave from the street but i'm not a selfish cunt and it's not an essential trip even if they're already out on a walk.

Well, that's you. And there's nothing stopping you having that happen if you want it other than your strict adherence to 'rules' which don't really take into account any risk assessment. But RULES.

Then going on to. Well if everyone does that..'. Not everyone will. No way near. If YOU wouldn't do it, why assume 'everyone else' in the country would?

So when it turns out a few weeks later that no, we don't have ice skating rinks full of the dead because of 'breaking the rules': that wasn't what they'd wanted necessarily but as you say, would have justified in their minds a consequence for 'rule breaking' and justification for them being correct in not doing so.

From the first day of lockdown we had posts about 'everyone else carrying on as normal' and neighbours doing x, y and z and how many people would die because of it, how because of Dave down the road we'll have stricter lockdown and just stay the fuck home. We'll have to get the army in etc..

And now they're a bit pissed off it hasn't happened. That most people have complied and the people that wouldn't were factored in anyway.

Even the idea of us being the laughing stock of the world is inverted arrogance, it’s assuming the the rest of the world are paying us an undue amount of attention right now.

Exactly this. Same as how the “rest of the world was looking on in horror” at our response to the pandemic. I’d hazard a guess they don’t really give a shit and are too worried about what’s going on in their own countries to care?

I agree that many folk on MN are particularly harsh. People post here for support and advice. They should offer this instead of being so harsh. What's that saying, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all? I posted on someone's thread recently, then added another comment as an after thought and someone accused me of racing to the bottom of the thread with a rolling eyes emoji for example. I'm only trying to help or express an opinion there's no need for that. It's put me off saying anything at all. Some people are fragile and and things like that do not help.

Another phenomenon that I can feel building is the NHS worshipping becoming the new poppy wearing. I bet the Daily Mail and Express reporters are being instructed to scour local news sites for the equivalent of Charlie Gilmore who was photographed swinging off the Cenotaph a while back. The only uncertainty is what format it will take. The Dementors will be orgasmic when they read it, the Daily Mail gets nore clicks and the merry go round goes on

Amen to all this.

Something that confuzzles me about Dementors is...where are they going to get their money from in this lockdown until 2022?

Either:

A) DH has a clearly impenetrable job and will not be affected by this at all. Hmm.

B) the government (who have apparently failed at everything) will pay for them until then.

So...idk. some people just lovvvve making other people feel like shit. They live for speaking the TRUTH ...but are essentially a living breathing version of the Mail Online.

Can we keep this thread going so we can plan

a big party when it's all over to really wind them up?!

It's not surprising that this is the way Mumsnet has gone in the era of Covid 19.

If there are people regularly on here who say they only drink a thimble full of sweet sherry every other Christmas. And anyone who drinks two thimbles is next door but one to a chronic alcoholic and should be checking into a rehab clinic quick smart.

It's not the fact that they don't drink (or whatever), it's the joining a social media forum and choosing to post to comment on other people's "weaknesses" and "failings".

I haven’t posted on mumsnet for a month because of exactly this.

It’s a reflection of real life on our local Facebook page sadly, like the batshit woman counting cyclists. Or the people in the country using it as an excuse to keep anyone who lives in a town away forever.

The problem is that mumsnetters generally like rules. It’s sod all to do with stopping the spread of this virus just rules.

But it’s reassuring to know that the tide has turned and the normal people are standing up to it (they are on local fb page, I kicked off when someone posted a picture of a morgue (when people locally were actually sick ) and have avoided that also since.

Can we keep this thread going so we can plan
a big party when it's all over to really wind them up?!

I'm in. In this spirit, I was out for a walk today. I didn't come within 5 metres if anyone else. There was nobody obviously not social distancing and no street parties. The people I did encounter said hello and carried on walking. There have been no significant shortages of food. The people I have spoken to mostly simply say they want the lockdown to work so that life can resume. I have learned not to use phrases like "normal life" or "life as before" as I don't want to give a Dementor (I wonder of any are reading this thread) an opportunity to pounce with their claws of "but normal LIFE WILL NEVER RESUME..new normal...Second World War...NHS...Piles of Bodies...Genocide... Sherbet Dip". I just put Sherbet Dip in there as a joke btw..

Can we keep this thread going so we can plan
a big party when it's all over to really wind them up

I volunteer to bring the curly wurlies

If there are people regularly on here who say they only drink a thimble full of sweet sherry every other Christmas. And anyone who drinks two thimbles is next door but one to a chronic alcoholic and should be checking into a rehab clinic quick smart

Yes absolute virtue signalling. I used to think this was a London/financial services thing. As in person sitting with Ribena in a pub goes on about how they hardly drink..really how remarkably little they drink. And how much they exercise, and yet have an incredibly important job, a stunning social life, are highly sexually desirable and have a great relationship with their 2 parents who are aged 29 and have negative bad cholesterol figures and the pulse rate of an Olmypic heptathlete

I volunteer to bring the curly wurlies
Nice one! By the way I read an article by Irish economic journalist David McWilliams a few years ago talking about how in the bad old days (even up to the 80s) Catholic Ireland banned certain products. Condoms were perhaps obvious targets but he also said (don't know if it was a joke) that Curly Wurlies were banned! Something about protectionism and there being a less popular Irish take off! He used a phrase I love to this day "condoms and porn you can almost understand being banned by conservative authorities but whoever thought up the FATWA on CurlyWurlies"!

I’m off for another month, I’ve just read the schools thread

Tea I did the same, there were hideous posts about posters not sending their children to school until September at the very earliest 'because I don't want my children to die' we're key workers and my two are at school, it really upset me!

Which schools thread? There are 100’s . Some predicting we won’t go back to school until September 2021...

I want lock down to be quick and over. I haven’t left the house since 17th March other than to go to the local shops for food. I am lucky as I can WFH. My partner has lost his job and we need the second income to survive.

I don’t want to see people queuing at b&q, my neighbours having friends round etc etc as it will mean every death and all the personal sacrifices we have made are for nothing..

It’s really fucking tough, but Spain has just today let its children outside.

I want to see a 2 week total lockdown followed by social distancing, unfortunately where I live (countryside village outside a major city) there are more people in the streets than I have ever seen before.

That’s very optimistic driving we can’t take any risk. Someone posted a meme on Facebook with a load of primary school kids with beards, she had clearly been on mumsnet.....

Some great dementors on the thread about the idea that furloughed workers should be put to use fruit picking etc on farms. Talk of how citizens (other ones obviously, not them) will have to take to the fields to save the country from starving.

And of course the usual MN spiteful terror that someone may be getting something they'd like themselves but can't have. Salivating at the idea of MNetters or their families having to leave home and live in caravans on farms for weeks because 'you can't expect something for nothing, why should I be paying for you to stay at home when i'm still working?'

The common MN idea that paying tax means you get to have a judgement in what it's spent on has always puzzled me.

I posted on this forum sometime ago (still during lockdown) asking for advice. I didn’t want to continuously bother my partner about the issue and I wished for a wider opinion. Never, ever will I post on this forum again. The fact that I posted wanting advice surely would tell folk that I was doubting myself. Some of the replies were constructive but in all honesty they were in the minority. Many included insults and also accusations that seemed to not even be related to the post. The whole scenario that unfolded sent me into severe anxiety for days. Thank God for my wonderful partner, family and friends who reassured me and gave me a ticking off to not ask advice on these forums, telling me that those reading do not know me as a person or know the finer details of the problem. It seems like people enjoy kicking snd stamping on someone when they are down. Absolutely awful experience.

I also wanted to add, that I was very lucky to have a support network at home, many don’t and rely upon these forums for help and advice.

Foodie321 it's a shame that's happened. I would say that MN can be very supportive though - especially in the Relationships threads. I've been on MN under various names and profiles since 2010. I do think it has become less tolerant, quicker to judge and pile on - AIBU used to be 'get a robust response'. It now seems to have turned into 'who can be the most rude and bloody unpleasant'. But I have seen so many women helped, so it has its good parts as well.