To ask if your kids are going to grandparents?

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May have already been asked, so apologies if repeated

My next door neighbour is in her late 50s. She is now working from home. Her daughter is also working from home (not wearing work clothes) and drops her kids off to my neighbour 2/3 times weekly, sometimes stopping for a cuppa in the garden.

I'd assumed this was all allowed until someone I mentioned it to questioned it.

Can anyone clarify this for me?
Any experiences?

ilovecakeandwine

Are you completely dense? That poster has already said her job cannot be done from home. What do you expect her to live on, dust?

Of course key workers have to work but everyone else no otherwise it's not lockdown

This isn’t true. It’s work from home unless impossible for everyone, not just key workers. Everyone can’t just sit at home with no income.

@Frompcat thank goodness someone can read and understand

I wish I lived in some people’s little bubbles!

I’ve seen the argument that child being shuttled between one youngish, healthy grandparent who is at home not working only leaving house when absolutely necessary is better than taking their space at nursery or school and mixing with many other children of key workers etc

I have to say I actually agree. Surely it massively minimized risk of spreading the virus ?

This is if the parent is a key worker obviously, not just so they can have a few hours peace and quiet. I also know someone who is taking their child to their mum’s (nan’s) once a week to give them a few hours respite from a very unsettled older sibling with disabilities and SEN. the child is a bit of a ‘target’ of the older sibling, and the sibling is not attending any school provision for respite themself so I thinks they’ve been given some sort of perimission from their social worker or something, so Who am I to say I don’t agree with it

Don't worry about it ilovedjerrymore. The more I read corona threads on here the more I think some posters are lacking in the most basic comprehension and/or thinking skills.

God the other week we had people saying if you went for daily exercise they you were killing people which I though was madness btw.
I understand it's to slow the virus but stop it .
I was completely against closing schools , I was completely against lockdown for this reason . but I will follow the guidance and not send my dc to relatives.it's just the same as those having bbq mixing household there is a risk .
And I clarify again I'm not taking about essential workers this is for non essential workers and only while we are on lockdown. As soon as lockdown lifted then that would be different.

I’d love to know where the law says non essential/key workers ‘cannot work because it’s lockdown’. Their children are not automatically entitled to a school place, but that’s not what is being said.

And I clarify again I'm not taking about essential workers this is for non essential workers and only while we are on lockdown. As soon as lockdown lifted then that would be different.

And what are non essential workers who haven't been furloughed and cannot work from home meant to do? Could you answer that question please?

I mean it's literally like speaking to a potato, isn't it.

@Frompcat I would honestly love to be able to work at home why would I want to take the risk if I didn’t have to. We are following the guidelines as much as we can. I don’t even go in to my mums I wait in the car for my son to come out.
I have tried to stay clear of these kinds of threads but it’s so hard, was hoping to educate small minded people but unfortunately that is not going to happen on here
Take care x

The guidance is that you must only go to work if you cannot work from home.

If your job is 'not essential' but cannot be done from home and your employer hasn't furloughed you, what are you supposed to do? Get fired?

I will follow the guidance and not send my dc to relatives.it'st the same as those having bbq mixing household there is a risk.

If you cannot see the difference between a relative caring for a child whilst a parent works and a BBQ then I despair. No one is saying there's no risk, but doing so is less risk than other options.

No. I'm scared for my parents to go to the supermarket, let alone have young kids around them.

If one was exceptionally careful and had no other option, I suppose it might have to happen for some people. But I would avoid it at all costs, to be honest.

ilovedjerrymore

You still haven't answered the question. If someone isn't furloughd, isn't an essential worker but also can't work from home, how exactly are they supposed to obtain money to support themselves? Or do you think they should starve?

I have tried to stay clear of these kinds of threads but it’s so hard, was hoping to educate small minded people

Think you might need to look in a mirror before you call other people small minded, given that you don't even seem to be able to read properly.

@ilovedjerrymore THEN YOU STAY HOME L if you are not a essential worker then you do not send dc to relatives. You stay home what do you think they rest of us are doing.

ilovecakeandwine

AND THEN WHAT WILL THEY DO FOR MONEY?

Jesus wept.

THEN YOU STAY HOME L if you are not a essential worker then you do not send dc to relatives.

You don't have to be an essential worker to go to work. If your job cannot be done from home you can go to work. People can't simply stay home as they have children to care for, or else they wouldn't be paid.

ilove Shouting doesn’t make your point less wrong.

YOU ARE WRONG.

You do not have enough information to know whether it is allowed and it is not your job to know or to seek to find out.

As @ItsAllForYou said - she may be a key worker. Or her husband may be. Or perhaps they have a child classed as vulnerable due to a diagnosis like ASD who is allowed to access childcare and Mum needs some respite. All legitimate and no one else's business.

@ilovecakeandwine

You’re shouting at someone and you’re wrong. You owe @ilovedjerrymore an apology.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do/coronavirus-outbreak-faqs-what-you-can-and-cant-do

Should I stay at home or go to work?

You may travel for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home.

Certain jobs require people to travel to their place of work – for instance if they operate machinery, work in construction or manufacturing, or are delivering front line services such as train and bus drivers. (for ex, not all construction and machinery workers will be on the key worker list, however it is recognised they cannot do their job at home.)

@ilovecakeandwine I give up!!!! Bangs head on wall!!
If you want to come and pay for my bills please do I would love to stay home all day!! I can’t stay home as my job is NOT CLOSED AND I HAVENT BEEN FURLOUGHED HOW BLOODY LUCKY YOU CAN WORK FROM HOME!

FFS

Frompcat Jerry is on the same side as you!

PotholeParadise

I know, I copied and pasted the wrong name . Apologies jerry

@ilovedjerrymore

THEN YOU STARVE!!!!

Sorry, everyone else was shouting.
I’m an extremely vulnerable person in the shielded group and I am scared of this virus for legitimate reasons. I am irritable with people near me who’ve done the following; used some fields and had a bloody bbq gathering requiring police to break it up, massive garden party last weekend and the fully grown adult men who thought it was a good idea to meet for a game of football. I am not irritable with people who need to work to pay bills, provide care for another adult or child who would otherwise be at risk of harm, people who have no choice to go to the supermarket because they can’t get a delivery slot and many other valid and real reasons to be out.

@ilovecakeandwineThis will make your day! 3 of my current projects are government funded through individual councils and they have said if we close we are in breech of contract as we are allowed To work we have not been closed by new guidelines!! I have an official letter stating it! If we close we get £££££ fines per day!!!