NHS staff dancing..

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I couldn't see another tread on this. But if there is, please link it.

What's your opinion on this? AIBU to think this is in very bad taste?

Sorry that was crass. PTSD is different, if that's what you are talking about.

It's a bit counter productive to argue about who is the most stressed though.

Totally miserable people, let them let off some steam if they want to. The misery they’re facing daily and the risk to their own lives, you’d think people would smile to see them do anything that takes their minds off it for a minute.

Why clap if you’d criticise them over something so harmless.

Theworld So what’s the difference in my examples? Why would my examples be inappropriate but perfectly acceptable for the videos we are now seeing?

They can dance if they want to,
They can leave their friends behind,
Cause your friends don’t dance and if they don’t dance,
Well they’re no friends of mine.

@Nicknacky I see. But I think you're missing the point. What pp was trying to say was that those events you mentioned were short term in comparison. The after effects may have lasted a long time - nobody is doubting that. This pandemic has been going on for weeks. It's relentless and they are dealing with it day in, day out. They need some light relief.

So actually anything that helps get through an ongoing longterm situation, great

I don't know whether it is deliberate deafness or an inability to comprehend the point being made by multiple posters. People with cancer are at home, missing vital medical treatment. The NHS is failing its patients. The conclusion of the Francis Report into the hundreds of unnecessary deaths in the Midlands circa 1997-2010 was that patients should be the priority. In functioning countries with functioning healthcare systems, that's the standard. In the UK? Dancing nurses, banging pots and pans and patients languishing at home isolated from medical care. The envy of the world? The rest of us look at this with increasing incredulity.

@MashedSpud 😂

@BovaryX how have you come to that conclusion? The NHS is failing it's patients? I think if you dig a little deeper you'll find that the reason so many treatments have been cancelled is to PROTECT patients from the virus.

The NHS staff are the kindest and most compassionate people around

I’ve worked for the NHS for over 20 years and I can promise you they’re not. I think the dancing is in shockingly bad taste.

I also have big issues with the ‘dark humour’ which at times has made me wince. Utterly vile and people need to be reported.

As for maleficient gloating about it in some superior way is utterly vile. Really sick.

Luna That still makes no sense. If the posting of these videos makes the participants feel better (regardless if it is long term or short term) then why is one acceptable and not the other?

We are professionals doing a professional job. There are many many ways to deal with the stress that is going on, but quite frankly putting videos on tick tok isn’t going to do much long term. And the bigger picture is that the public are seeing them and it’s having a negative impression.

You only need to look at the number of NHS staff that have posted here that they are highly inappropriate.

Look working in the NHS is stressful Covid or no Covid. Dh and I have had busier times than this in healthcare. And Dh worked as a junior Dr in South African township hospitals, so don’t talk to him about stress - or a lack of ITU beds!
But the point is you have to be able to cope with it without offending the public or risking looking unprofessional. So yes, laugh/ dance whatever but keep it to yourselves!

The trouble is people want to over share these days, they think everyone needs to know everything about them.

When all the critics of this come off 12 hour shifts in ITU crying six days a week, unable to go home to their families, I’ll be prepared to listen to them. Until then, maybe they need to think a little harder and find some empathy. One of the least palatable aspects of this awful situation has been the emergence of a particular kind of person determined to suck the joy out of everything.

@BovaryX struggling to see why you keep relating the dances to cancer treatment being stopped? A decision made by senior management that has nothing to do with us lowly nurses. I would love my clinics to be running as usual, to not have been redeployed frontline to ED in an environment I’m not familiar treating ailments I’m not familiar with. Do the NMC or management care that we acting out of our scope of practice which is against the code? No because there’s a crisis. Just like they won’t care about some staff trying to lift people’s spirits by doing a stupid dance.

Nicknacky in my local rag online it's touched on this today. There's comments already about how people are not seeing the dancing as acceptable or appropriate, this will get bigger I presume the more videos are posted.

I give up. Some of you treat being annoyed at things as a hobby. Any excuse to twitch the proverbial curtain!

P.s. maybe some of you should make a little dance... Might encourage you to loosen up a bit.

Also So unless we work in ICU we have to just agree with these videos? Dance away to your hearts content if that helps you, but don’t put it on SM for likes and shares. That’s the issue here.

@LunaHardy
I suggest you read today's Times report. The consequence of cancelling cancer treatment and diagnosis is going to cause deaths. The UK already has some of the worst cancer survival rates in the developed world. Do you imagine a couple of months of 'protect the NHS' by renouncing medical care will improve those statistics? I suggest you think a little deeper

^The NHS will reopen “within very short order” for routine care, the health secretary said yesterday amid warnings that 60,000 cancer patients could die through lack of treatment or diagnosis.
Matt Hancock told the Commons that the coronavirus peak had been reached and that hospitals again had the capacity to attend to victims of cancer, heart attacks and strokes. Routine surgery would resume shortly, with the NHS having 10,000 free beds and with the outbreak no longer worsening, he said^

www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/we-ve-reached-peak-of-coronavirus-and-will-reopen-the-nhs-vows-matt-hancock-h79cznxtk

When all the critics of this come off 12 hour shifts in ITU crying six days a week, unable to go home to their families, I’ll be prepared to listen to them

I’m pretty sure none of the videos feature staff working in Covid wards.

www.independent.co.uk/news/health/uk-cancer-survival-rates-bottom-world-league-table-a9101916.html

@BovaryX of course people could die without the treatment. But they could also die if they catch the virus, which would probably kill them a hell of a lot quicker due to their poor immune system. I'm not saying it's ideal, I'm saying postponing treatment is the lesser of 2 evils in this current situation. What part of that are you failing to grasp?

Im pretty sure none of the videos feature staff working in Covid wards

Incorrect. There’s many videos of ITU nurses who the majority of their patients will have covid.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/health/nhs-nurses-isle-of-wight-tiktok-video-dancing-a4402961.html%3famp

What part of that are you failing to grasp?

I think she may be failing to grasp the part where cancer patients are unable to speak to anyone regarding their treatment, when it will recommence etc, but can watch healthcare workers dancing on Tik Tok.

I'm saying postponing treatment is the lesser of 2 evils in this current situation

@LunaHardy

Your personal opinion is totally irrelevant. There will be a public inquiry as a consequence of this. The NHS has been closed for business, while its cheerleaders bang pans and patients in urgent need of medical treatment languish at home. The NHS management government ministers responsible for this should be held accountable for the consequences of their decisions.