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To think that a personality cult has developed around Boris Johnson?

626 replies

Applejaxx · 17/04/2020 14:38

I know this sounds completley ridiculous but have a quick look around social media and in particular Twitter, and you will see a disturbing number of people with lots of union flags in their twitter handle name who effectively think that the sun shines out of his arse, that he can do no wrong and that any justifiable criticism of his or his governments handling of the current crisis is part of a massive 'leftie' conspiracy against him.

They are terrified of 'lefties's and 'liberals' and think all of the media are out to get Boris and his government, it is just bat shit. Its not just Twitter either, I had to unfriend someone on Facebook after they told me that I should 'show Boris some fucking respect' a few weeks ago. This was after I'd shared something criticising his handling of the pandemic. Thankfully it was somone I don't really know that well and never have to see again, but still!

If im honest it all a bit disturbing. Its reminscent of a personality cult IMO, 'how dare you disrespect our glorious leader'.

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Mittens030869 · 25/04/2020 16:09

Yes that's right, in the October election Labour did have a majority of the votes. But Heath didn't resign, he should have but didn't. Thatcher challenged him in a leadership election and beat him. And we know what that led to.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 25/04/2020 16:12

Tried to do a deal with Thorpe but Jezza probably wanted to be foreign secretary so bunnies could go to Paris.

Mittens030869 · 25/04/2020 16:20

That figures. My point was, he didn't resign graciously. He then went on to moan about Thatcher constantly in the background. Some of what he said was right but it wasn't a good look at all.

One thing that people forget now is that before Thatcher, the Tories were a very different party in the post war years and up until she changed their direction, they supported a consensus about the NHS and a welfare state, and public ownership of the railways any the utilities. This explains why elections were close and there were very few large majorities.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 25/04/2020 16:33

And they might have stayed that way if Iain Macleod hadn't died. High on the list of Great Prime Ministers We Never Had.

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Applejaxx · 25/04/2020 16:47

What amazes me is how they all turn a blind eye to Boris’ faults. The affairs, the kids scattered up and down everywhere by countless different women, the threats of violence, the homophobia the racism etc.

It makes me think that they probably have broken moral compasses and behave that way themselves so see nothing wrong with it.

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chomalungma · 25/04/2020 17:00

Well, if we are discussing the Conservatives in 1951 (when apparently Labour got the most votes), I wonder which of their policies she agrees with most.

It's not an area I know much about - post WW2 economy, rationing still going on, the Korean war in mid flow.

But post 1950 politics to the present day looks very interesting

Peregrina · 25/04/2020 17:45

My comment about St Boris was really that he is a born liar. Like the boy who cried wolf. The one time there was, no one believed him.

CendrillonSings · 25/04/2020 17:55

My comment about St Boris was really that he is a born liar. Like the boy who cried wolf. The one time there was, no one believed him.

So I’ll keep asking - are the doctors at St. Thomas’ complicit in a conspiracy, or are they incompetent?

That should be an easy question to answer, unless of course the very idea of having to admit that he’s telling the truth is just too painful for you to cope with...

emilybrontescorsett · 25/04/2020 18:01

I’m sorry but they are illegitimate or bastards take your pick.
He is 55 years old shacked up with some woman ( that’s the most polite thing I can say about her) he had endless kids to endless women.
He isn’t doing a good enough job and yet there are people defending him here.
He is throwing everyone else under the bus.
He is in charge and I’m quite sure well enough to piss about and well enough to address the nation.
He has cried wolf far too often. Before this .
Where was he when he should have been addressing the flood victims?
Where was he during the election campaign.
I don’t get the adulation for him.
He is a disgrace.
It’s all an act ‘ I’m jolly Borris me, I am ha ha. I’ll get our great nation back again I will he he. We will definitely great again we will.”
Hmmm we will see.

Peregrina · 25/04/2020 18:03

Ask away all you like Cendrillon.

I am 100% sure the staff at St Thomas' are competent and professional. I wish I thought the same of the Government. But never mind, they have their 80 seat majority. What could possibly go wrong?

emilybrontescorsett · 25/04/2020 18:04

Oh and criticise Borris and you must be a leftie.
It’s like saying “why the fuck are you crying, I’ve only hit you once. Some women get beaten every day.”
And no, he is not on deaths door.

Peregrina · 25/04/2020 18:10

He did look pretty rough before he went into hospital, but then we had all that guff about him being in good spirits and working on his red boxes.

Now he's gone to ground. Perhaps rightly because Matt Hancock looks as though he's not in a good way, and ought to get more rest.

chomalungma · 25/04/2020 18:11

That should be an easy question to answer, unless of course the very idea of having to admit that he’s telling the truth is just too painful for you to cope with

No doubt he had the disease. And had it very bad.

I hope that he had a Damascene moment during his time in ICU.

emilybrontescorsett · 25/04/2020 18:34

I think Borris is cultivating a ‘cheeky chappy’ persona.
Whilst those such as Hancock and Rabb can’t pull that off.

DecadentDeity · 25/04/2020 18:43

So I’ll keep asking - are the doctors at St. Thomas’ complicit in a conspiracy, or are they incompetent? I really do not think the doctors at St Thomas' would be stupid enough to discuss a patient's health - surely that would be utterly unprofessional and a breach of confidentiality. Even if they didn't feel he deserved a bed in ICU - they have no right to say that in public.

LastTrainEast · 25/04/2020 18:50

"I’m sorry but they are illegitimate or bastards take your pick"

"Isn't it better to refer to the children born out of wedlock as illegitimate, which is what they are? Or would you rather they were called bastards?"

No I think I'll stick to 'children' thanks. I don't see the need to mark them as different because of their parents. I kind of thought we'd gotten past that.

pinkpinecone · 25/04/2020 18:54

100% agree your post, OP!

DecadentDeity · 25/04/2020 19:02

No I think I'll stick to 'children' thanks. I don't see the need to mark them as different because of their parents. I kind of thought we'd gotten past that. This!

Peregrina · 25/04/2020 19:05

We aren't really talking of his children though. It's the character of Boris which is being discussed.

Walkingtohealth · 25/04/2020 19:06

OP.i totally agree and the pathetic cult that has grown up around him makes me despair.

I don’t wish the man ill and I am very happy he has recovered and is resting.

I do however find it bizarre that anyone who didn’t “clap for Boris” was deemed some kind of traitor on SM.

I didn’t clap, I wouldn’t clap but that didn’t mean I wanted him to die. You’d think otherwise judging by the comments I got on SM.

He is not Churchill and I am sick of people making that comparison.

CendrillonSings · 25/04/2020 19:54

We aren't really talking of his children though. It's the character of Boris which is being discussed

Bullshit. If those labels were being applied to the children of a politician you liked, you’d be calling them out like the vicious terms they are.

jasjas1973 · 25/04/2020 20:03

Labels like that shouldn't be applied to any child.

However, it doesn't take away that if a man came onto MN and told a tattered tale of betrayal, abortion and fathering children from brief relationships.... (and then having nothing to with them) what does anyone think the reaction would be ?

TBF if i knew anyone like this, i would make a quick and accurate judgement that they are not marrying material!!

Yet here we are, as a country, worshipping the guy! Madness!

chomalungma · 25/04/2020 20:10

Bullshit. If those labels were being applied to the children of a politician you liked, you’d be calling them out like the vicious terms they are

Gosh. That's the first time I've seen you angry.

Alsohuman · 25/04/2020 20:12

They’re not vicious terms. A child whose parents aren’t married is illegitimate, it’s a fact. And a fact clearly not lost on our PM since he’s planning to marry the mother of his latest child, whether he’ll change the rules in order to achieve that before it’s born remains to be seen.

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 25/04/2020 20:16

The concept of illegitimacy has long been abolished in English law.

It's just that the Tory Press finally has one of their own in 10DS, so they give him a free pass. Compare and contrast:

Neil Kinnock, not fit to be Prime Minister because he falls over and swears at journalists.

Ed Miliband, not fit to be Prime Minister because he lives in sin with his unmarried partner and children born outside wedlock.

Jeremy Corbyn, not fit to be Prime Minister because he has dodgy foreign friends.

Do you see a pattern?